[wp-hackers] Plugin Licensing

Trent Martin trentmar at gmail.com
Tue Mar 15 19:12:56 UTC 2011

> How is this kind of challenge beneficial to the community or your
> If you want anyone to support your position, try to take a less abrasive
> tone when sending out a mass message.  P

I apologize for being abrasive, but I really do feel shunned. Yes everyone
has a right to ignore me because of my product, people don't have to accept
my advertising money, and I am not saying they do. Those are just examples
of how much I am shunned, that they won't even take my money.

Despite this I have done very well with my plugin, I have made over $200,000
since I first wrote it several years ago, although sales are steadily
declining nowadays. But besides the money, I would just like to be a part of
the community. Can you imagine how it felt when I decided to become a major
sponsor of a Word Camp and was told they didn't want my money?

This isn't about legal definitions, I got distracted there, it's about the
fact that you follow Matt or you are out of the community, which is why I
have to use an alias just to participate on this list.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Andy Charrington-Wilden
> <andycharrington at gmail.com> wrote:
> > [...]However, I accept that the WordPress community has rightfully
> defined its
> > own ethos with respect to acceptable licensing of WordPress Plugins and
> > Themes.[...]
> >
> > That hits the nail on the head. Without any actual court cases happening
> no one really knows the legality of derivative works.
> There is no debate on the legality of it. The GPL makes it perfectly
> clear: derivative works must also be GPL.
> Now, the question of whether any particular piece of code is
> derivative or not is indeed debatable, but only on the merits of the
> particular code in question. You can't debate it in a general sense,
> realistically. Many people have stated their opinions, many times, and
> because it's just their opinion, there's no way to solve that debate.
> People disagree and will continue to do so, because they are
> disagreeing about their opinions being right or wrong, not about
> anything that is actually decidable.
> Nevertheless, the wp-hackers mailing list is not really the right
> place to have this discussion. Take it to a forum somewhere, please.
> -Otto
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