[wp-hackers] Attaching photos to multiple posts
will.davis at gmail.com
Fri Feb 4 00:13:39 UTC 2011
Thanks for your response, Andrew. I agree, the problem needs to be
more thoroughly defined, and I definitely want to hear others' use
cases so a plugin can be built that solves as many as possible as
eloquently as possible.
On Feb 3, 2011, at 6:56 PM, Andrew Nacin wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 6:40 PM, William Davis <will.davis at gmail.com>
>> On uploading it again: That's a lot of extra work (finding the image,
>> uploading it, editing the cutline and crop, etc.) that a lot of
>> don't have.
>> Jane: On choosing it from the media library: You can't select a
>> photo from
>> the media library that's attached to another post except to embed
>> it. As
>> mentioned below, we don't embed images.
>> Otto: I mentioned postmeta and taxonomies earlier. Two reasons I
>> these were that oftentimes we want to edit the caption between two
>> use cases (for example, a photo of our governor on one story might
>> have a
>> full description of what he's doing, while the other might just
>> simply state
>> his name and use the photo for illustrative purposes; and that we
>> would want
>> to order the photos as well, which can certainly be done with
>> postmeta and
>> taxonomies but not as easily as, for example, defining menu_order.
>> The problem is as follows: For our purposes (and I understand this
>> isn't a core feature) we need an easy way to attach file photos to
>> (for example, on many continuing stories we'll use the same photo
>> four, five times). As I mentioned already, uploading it multiple
>> times is
>> rather cumbersome.
>> Thanks for your thoughts thus far already.
> One problem is that you can't have your cake and eat it too.
> Allowing a photo to be associated with more than one post at a time
> that you can't edit the caption. And yes, coming from journalism, I
> absolutely see the use case in associating the caption with the
> point of attachment of the photo, rather than the photo itself.
> That leads me to the next point, which could be that uploading it
> might actually be the most painless way to do it. That allows you to
> crop or
> scale things as well as customize captions and metadata. (Even media
> could be customized at the point of attachment, rather than the
> photo; for
> example, over time a photo might become a 'file photo' rather than the
> original photographer, which sometimes the policy in media
> The solution? I'm not sure, but I see it less as a technical one and
> more as
> one that is custom to your particular implementation.
> Perhaps a method that allows copying of attachments -- the record is
> inserted as a new attachment and new files are generated. But you
> can still
> keep them linked via postmeta fields and synchronize the data you
> specifically want, whenever you wish to modify one or the other.
> That keeps
> the burden down of downloading then uploading a file whenever you
> want to
> reuse it.
> I also like the simple approach of tying attachments to posts not
> only via
> post_parent but also with postmeta on the parent post. (Taxonomy
> works too.)
> Then to get attachments tied to a post, you'd query by postmeta value
> instead. This doesn't break the conventions of how WordPress stores
> attachments, but still provides the ability of not needing to embed
> in post content. You still have issues with attachments but perhaps
> another thing that can go into postmeta.
> I agree strongly with Otto that it isn't about the solution, it's
> about the
> problem. Identify exactly what you want to achieve, and then find a
> that fits your needs. If our use cases are close, I'd be willing to
> work on
> this as well, as I'd like to leverage it myself somewhere, so let me
> Hope that helps,
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