[wp-hackers] front-page.php always overrides home.php?
Chris Gossmann
chris at wupperpiraten.de
Fri Nov 19 21:32:13 UTC 2010
Don't do that. I spent too much time explaining the Thematic users the
difference between the two functions ;)
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com [mailto:wp-hackers-
> bounces at lists.automattic.com] Im Auftrag von Chip Bennett
> Gesendet: Freitag, 19. November 2010 22:25
> An: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> Betreff: Re: [wp-hackers] front-page.php always overrides home.php?
>
> Maybe I should just write up the patch, and see what kind of reception
> it
> gets?
>
> The worst anyone can do is say "wontfix". :)
>
> Chip
>
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Chris Gossmann
> <chris at wupperpiraten.de>wrote:
>
> > Don't know .. for me is_front_page() was always the entry page and
> is_home
> > was always the page showing the blog posts ( the home of your blog).
> >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com [mailto:wp-hackers-
> > > bounces at lists.automattic.com] Im Auftrag von Chip Bennett
> > > Gesendet: Freitag, 19. November 2010 22:15
> > > An: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > Betreff: Re: [wp-hackers] front-page.php always overrides home.php?
> > >
> > > Exactly!
> > >
> > > So "home.php" ISN'T "home". It's simply the blog-index (posts-
> index),
> > > whether on the front page or another page.
> > >
> > > front-page.php and is_front_page() cover all of the uses of
> home.php
> > > and
> > > is_home() for both posts-index-as-home and static-page-as-home -
> which
> > > is
> > > why I'm suggesting to rename "home.php" and "is_home()" to
> something
> > > more
> > > accurate.
> > >
> > > Make sense, or am I still off-base?
> > >
> > > Chip
> > >
> > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Chris Gossmann
> > > <chris at wupperpiraten.de>wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ok .. did a test:
> > > >
> > > > If you have a standard installation without any special setting
> under
> > > > wp-admin / settings / reading:
> > > >
> > > > Front-page.php will be used as your entry page. Home.php isn't
> used
> > > at all.
> > > >
> > > > If you define a page as Front page and a page as Posts page under
> wp-
> > > admin
> > > > /
> > > > settings / reading:
> > > >
> > > > Front-page.php will be used for Front page and home.php for your
> > > Posts
> > > > page.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > Von: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com [mailto:wp-
> hackers-
> > > > > bounces at lists.automattic.com] Im Auftrag von Chip Bennett
> > > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 19. November 2010 21:58
> > > > > An: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > > > Betreff: Re: [wp-hackers] front-page.php always overrides
> home.php?
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not confusing the two, as far as I know.
> > > > >
> > > > > Simple question: if "front-page.php" and "home.php" template
> files
> > > both
> > > > > exist in a Theme, under what conditions will "home.php" be used
> on
> > > the
> > > > > home/front page of the site using that Theme?
> > > > >
> > > > > Chip
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Chris Gossmann
> > > > > <chris at wupperpiraten.de>wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Seems as if you're mixing up front-page.php and front page
> > > template
> > > > > :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The existence of a front-page.php will always enforce the use
> of
> > > this
> > > > > file
> > > > > > as entry page of your blog. A front page template is a
> template
> > > file
> > > > > with a
> > > > > > different name that is activated by creating a page using
> this
> > > > > template and
> > > > > > the according settings under wp-admin / settings / reading.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > > > Von: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com [mailto:wp-
> > > hackers-
> > > > > > > bounces at lists.automattic.com] Im Auftrag von Chip Bennett
> > > > > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 19. November 2010 21:27
> > > > > > > An: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > > > > > Betreff: Re: [wp-hackers] front-page.php always overrides
> > > home.php?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks, Chris.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But, does that make sense?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If a Theme includes both template files "front-page.php"
> and
> > > > > > > "home.php", the
> > > > > > > Blog index will display differently, depending on user
> > > settings:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If Blog (i.e. "posts") is set to display on the front page,
> > > then
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > Blog
> > > > > > > index will use "front-page.php"; however, if the front page
> is
> > > set
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > display a static Page, and the Blog set to display on a
> non-
> > > front
> > > > > Page,
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > the Blog index will use "home.php".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That seems inconsistent (and confusing) to me:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1) Blog display will be different depending on location
> > > setting,
> > > > > rather
> > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > by content type (Page vs Post)
> > > > > > > 2) "*home*.php" is potentially used for a non-home page.
> > > > > > > 3) "front-*page*.php" is used for both Pages and Posts.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've not poked around Trac yet; does anyone know if any
> related
> > > > > tickets
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > been opened? I think some of this needs some cleaning-up.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Chip
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Chris Gossmann
> > > > > > > <chris at wupperpiraten.de>wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Chip,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > this is the correct behavior.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Front-page is always the front page / first page, whereas
> > > home
> > > > > could
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > home / first page or whatever you defined to show your
> > > regular
> > > > > posts.
> > > > > > > > Therefore front-page.php will override home.php.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Chris
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > > > > > > > Von: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> [mailto:wp-
> > > > > hackers-
> > > > > > > > > bounces at lists.automattic.com] Im Auftrag von Chip
> Bennett
> > > > > > > > > Gesendet: Freitag, 19. November 2010 20:38
> > > > > > > > > An: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > > > > > > > Betreff: [wp-hackers] front-page.php always overrides
> > > home.php?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > All,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If a Theme defines both a "home.php" template file (for
> a
> > > > > custom
> > > > > > > "home"
> > > > > > > > > page
> > > > > > > > > displaying Posts) and a "front-page.php" template file
> (for
> > > a
> > > > > > > custom
> > > > > > > > > "home"
> > > > > > > > > page displaying a static Page), it appears that "front-
> > > > > page.php"
> > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > always
> > > > > > > > > take precedence over "home.php":
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Here's the definition of
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> is_front_page()<http://core.trac.wordpress.org/browser/tags/3.0.1/wp-
> > > > > > > > > includes/query.php#L353>
> > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 344 /**
> > > > > > > > > 345 * Whether current page query is the front of the
> site.
> > > > > > > > > 346 *
> > > > > > > > > 347 * @since 2.5.0
> > > > > > > > > 348 * @uses is_home()
> > > > > > > > > 349 * @uses get_option()
> > > > > > > > > 350 *
> > > > > > > > > 351 * @return bool True, if front of site.
> > > > > > > > > 352 */
> > > > > > > > > 353 function is_front_page() {
> > > > > > > > > 354 // most likely case
> > > > > > > > > *355 if ( 'posts' ==
> get_option('show_on_front') &&
> > > > > > > is_home()
> > > > > > > > > )*
> > > > > > > > > 356 return true;
> > > > > > > > > 357 elseif ( 'page' ==
> get_option('show_on_front')
> > > &&
> > > > > > > > > get_option('page_on_front') &&
> > > > > is_page(get_option('page_on_front'))
> > > > > > > )
> > > > > > > > > 358 return true;
> > > > > > > > > 359 else
> > > > > > > > > 360 return false;
> > > > > > > > > 361 }
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > And then here's the relevant code from the template
> > > > > > > > > loader<http://core.trac.wordpress.org/browser/trunk/wp-
> > > > > > > > > includes/template-loader.php#L21>
> > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 21 if ( defined('WP_USE_THEMES') && WP_USE_THEMES ) :
> > > > > > > > > 22 $template = false;
> > > > > > > > > 23 if ( is_404() && $template =
> > > > > > > > > get_404_template()
> > > > > > > > > ) :
> > > > > > > > > 24 elseif ( is_search() && $template =
> > > > > > > > > get_search_template()
> > > > > > > > > ) :
> > > > > > > > > 25 elseif ( is_tax() && $template =
> > > > > > > > > get_taxonomy_template() ) :
> > > > > > > > > *26 elseif ( is_front_page() && $template =
> > > > > > > > > get_front_page_template() ) :*
> > > > > > > > > *27 elseif ( is_home() && $template =
> > > > > > > > > get_home_template()
> > > > > > > > > ) :*
> > > > > > > > > 28 elseif ( is_attachment() && $template =
> > > > > > > > > get_attachment_template() ) :
> > > > > > > > > 29 remove_filter('the_content',
> > > > > > > 'prepend_attachment');
> > > > > > > > > 30 elseif ( is_single() && $template =
> > > > > > > > > get_single_template()
> > > > > > > > > ) :
> > > > > > > > > 31 elseif ( is_page() && $template =
> > > > > > > > > get_page_template()
> > > > > > > > > ) :
> > > > > > > > > 32 elseif ( is_category() && $template =
> > > > > > > > > get_category_template() ) :
> > > > > > > > > 33 elseif ( is_tag() && $template =
> > > > > > > > > get_tag_template()
> > > > > > > > > ) :
> > > > > > > > > 34 elseif ( is_author() && $template =
> > > > > > > > > get_author_template()
> > > > > > > > > ) :
> > > > > > > > > 35 elseif ( is_date() && $template =
> > > > > > > > > get_date_template()
> > > > > > > > > ) :
> > > > > > > > > 36 elseif ( is_archive() && $template =
> > > > > > > > > get_archive_template() ) :
> > > > > > > > > 37 elseif ( is_comments_popup() && $template =
> > > > > > > > > get_comments_popup_template() ) :
> > > > > > > > > 38 elseif ( is_paged() && $template =
> > > > > > > > > get_paged_template()
> > > > > > > > > ) :
> > > > > > > > > 39 else :
> > > > > > > > > 40 $template = get_index_template();
> > > > > > > > > 41 endif;
> > > > > > > > > 42 if ( $template = apply_filters(
> > > 'template_include',
> > > > > > > > > $template ) )
> > > > > > > > > 43 include( $template );
> > > > > > > > > 44 return;
> > > > > > > > > 45 endif;
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is this the intended behavior? If so, it would seem to
> make
> > > the
> > > > > use
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > "home.php" obsolete, since "front-page.php" covers both
> use
> > > > > cases.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > (And sorry for the incredibly belated question. I know
> that
> > > > > "front-
> > > > > > > > > page.php"
> > > > > > > > > has been around for a year. I've just never actually
> *used*
> > > it,
> > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > wasn't
> > > > > > > > > aware of how it was defined/used by the template
> loader.)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Chip
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