[wp-hackers] Proposal: StackOverflow for WordPress

Brent thenbrent at gmail.com
Fri May 14 06:10:32 UTC 2010


The most obvious difference is that WP Questions, for better or worse, is
financially driven.

Another important difference is that Stack Overflow does well with SEO. I've
ended up on StackOverflow when Googling about WP a number of times, but
until your post, I'd never heard of WPQuestions.com. That could be other
factors though.




On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 1:04 PM, Pixel Insert <studio at pixert.com> wrote:

> bbPress 1.1 is to be released soon. Also, for those who missed it,
> bbPress website looks better now http://bbpress.org/
>
> >> I like the new bbPress website. I can't wait for new bbPress updates.
> I'm
> hoping for more integration between WordPress and bbPress in the future
> >> Can anyone explain differences between Stack Overflow and WP Questions?
> It looks similar to me.
>
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:00 PM, <wp-hackers-request at lists.automattic.com
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> >   1. Re: ordering by a custom field (Brian Fidler)
> >   2. Important changes to post type and taxonomy       registration
> >      (Andrew Nacin)
> >   3. Shortcodes getting wrapped with a "p" tag by rich editor
> >      (Ezwan Aizat Bin Abdullah Faiz)
> >   4. Re: Shortcodes getting wrapped with a "p" tag by rich     editor
> >      (Thomas Belknap)
> >   5. Re: Proposal: StackOverflow for WordPress (Calvin Freitas)
> >   6. Re: Proposal: StackOverflow for WordPress (Stas Su?cov)
> >   7. Re: Proposal: StackOverflow for WordPress (Doug Stewart)
> >   8. Bugs caused by adding a second rich editor to the add/edit
> >      posts screen (Matthew Gerring)
> >   9. Re: Proposal: StackOverflow for WordPress (Michael E. Hancock)
> >  10. Re: Bugs caused by adding a second rich editor to the
> >      add/edit posts screen (scribu)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 07:06:44 -0700
> > From: Brian Fidler <fidler.brian at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] ordering by a custom field
> > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > Message-ID:
> >        <AANLkTinURxf4r_Wn-MClqJl0uUYCkqCQ-6vZ5URukhyp at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Thanks Mike, I may have some questions on how to implement it.
> >
> > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Mike Schinkel <
> > mikeschinkel at newclarity.net
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > On May 13, 2010, at 12:22 AM, Brian Fidler wrote:
> > > >
> > > >   - I have a second custom field in my posts that allows me to set
> > > >   display_order. Instead of ending my query with ORDER BY
> > > >   wp_posts.post_title ASC, I'd like to order by the custom field
> > > >   "display_order"
> > >
> > > What will your custom field's value be?  The name of a field in the
> posts
> > > table, or something else?  If the former, I assume there's a finite set
> > of
> > > options which you would test against (otherwise you might end up having
> a
> > > SQL injection vulnerability?)
> > >
> > > > and secondly, is there a simpler way to run this query using wpdb
> > class?
> > >
> > > What about it do you want to be simpler?   AFAICT NextGen doesn't give
> > you
> > > hooks into their queries so you'll have to do it with SQL.
> > >
> > > Anyway, here's a standalone file you can put in your root and I think
> it
> > > should give you want you want, minus the display order I haven't
> > implemented
> > > yet.  Let me know if this is what you are looking for?
> > >
> > > http://wordpress.pastebin.com/79QDM7Ng
> > >
> > > HTH.
> > >
> > > -Mike
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 11:53:57 -0400
> > From: Andrew Nacin <wp at andrewnacin.com>
> > Subject: [wp-hackers] Important changes to post type and taxonomy
> >        registration
> > To: wp-testers <wp-testers at lists.automattic.com>,
> >        wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> > Testers and hackers,
> >
> > We've made two important changes to how you register post types and
> > taxonomies. We've introduced two new arrays into the arguments you would
> > normally pass during registration: 'labels', and 'capabilities'.
> >
> > More or less, label and singular_label is not enough for i18n purposes,
> so
> > we now generate a dozen or so labels based off the post type that can be
> > used throughout core, and any plugin can choose to register their own
> > translations for their own custom post types. (This also will apply to
> > taxonomies.) It isn't fully implemented yet, but it's close. We may
> > eliminate singular_label entirely, since that was introduced earlier in
> the
> > 3.0 cycle.
> >
> > Second, we've moved the fine-grained capabilities controls for custom
> post
> > types and taxonomies into a capabilities array. Thus, if you were using
> > manage_cap, assign_cap, edit_type_cap, etc -- all of those are gone,
> moved
> > under a cap object. ($post_type_object->cap->edit_posts.) Please take
> note.
> >
> > I've also chronicled this in more detail (and arguably more confusing
> > fashion) at http://wpdevel.wordpress.com/?p=814. That post also
> references
> > the tickets where this was implemented, so you can look at the code if
> you
> > have any questions, or ping any of the committers etc.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Nacin
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 00:05:07 +0800
> > From: Ezwan Aizat Bin Abdullah Faiz <aizat.faiz at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [wp-hackers] Shortcodes getting wrapped with a "p" tag by
> >        rich    editor
> > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > Message-ID:
> >        <AANLkTiku3pFWcgWLlkFECFvlF17Z1LS2Qt0ZPjHEq7DG at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Holas,
> >
> > I've written up a trac ticket #13288 (
> > http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/13288 ), and have yet to a see a
> > response of any kind.
> >
> > Was wondering what is the procedure to get this looked at.
> >
> > Trac ticket description, reproduced here:
> >
> > This bug appeared when trying to hunt down a bug with the TinyMCE
> Advanced
> > (
> > >  http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/tinymce-advanced/ ) plugin where
> > > extra spaces were being added (
> > http://wordpress.org/support/topic/350867), and was related to the
> > WordPress code.
> >
> >
> > > It appears that shortcodes are wrapped with a "p" tag, before being
> sent
> > to
> > > the rich editor.
> >
> >
> > > This patch removes the "p" tag, by calling shortcode_unautop.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Aizat
> >
> > --
> > http://aizatto.com
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 12:17:05 -0400
> > From: Thomas Belknap <dragonfly at dragonflyeye.net>
> > Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Shortcodes getting wrapped with a "p" tag by
> >        rich    editor
> > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > Message-ID:
> >        <AANLkTikdRPyqCmzSrsz9Awsco1-nbe36iDRz2K_USfAb at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > I think I've always used the HTML editor. Thought that was the way it was
> > supposed to work?
> >
> > On May 13, 2010 12:05 PM, "Ezwan Aizat Bin Abdullah Faiz" <
> > aizat.faiz at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Holas,
> >
> > I've written up a trac ticket #13288 (
> > http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/13288 ), and have yet to a see a
> > response of any kind.
> >
> > Was wondering what is the procedure to get this looked at.
> >
> > Trac ticket description, reproduced here:
> >
> > This bug appeared when trying to hunt down a bug with the TinyMCE
> Advanced
> > (
> > >  http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/tinymce-advanced/ ) plugin where
> > > extra spaces were being added (
> > http://wordpress.org/support/topic/350867),
> > and was related to the WordPress code.
> >
> >
> > > It appears that shortcodes are wrapped with a "p" tag, before being
> sent
> > to
> > > the rich editor.
> >
> >
> > > This patch removes the "p" tag, by calling shortcode_unautop.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Aizat
> >
> > --
> > http://aizatto.com
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 10:05:37 -0700
> > From: Calvin Freitas <cal at calvinf.com>
> > Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Proposal: StackOverflow for WordPress
> > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > Message-ID:
> >        <AANLkTil-ILGstowUjMNQcp0QdchEsFBQAuHEROR2yuAO at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > It'd be great to have all the same tools and features available to run on
> a
> > site powered by bbPress, but from what I've seen those tools aren't
> there.
> > When was the last time bbPress had any kind of update?
> >
> > - Cal
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Christopher O'Connell <
> > jwriteclub at gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm going to add +1 to this whole concept.
> > >
> > > ~ Christopher
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 20:22:52 +0300
> > From: Stas Su?cov <stas at nerd.ro>
> > Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Proposal: StackOverflow for WordPress
> > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > Message-ID: <1273771372.14542.17.camel at rivalry>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > ?n data de Jo, 13-05-2010 la 10:05 -0700, Calvin Freitas a scris:
> > > It'd be great to have all the same tools and features available to run
> on
> > a
> > > site powered by bbPress, but from what I've seen those tools aren't
> > there.
> > > When was the last time bbPress had any kind of update?
> >
> > bbPress 1.1 is to be released soon. Also, for those who missed it,
> > bbPress website looks better now http://bbpress.org/
> >
> > There are also plans to rewrite it as a new WordPress 3.0 plugin using
> > exclusively the api for custom post types and taxonomy. This was
> > discussed recently on #bbpress and #wordpress-gsoc.
> >
> > For those who missed the wcsf keynote, there are also plans to move the
> > whole *press.org stuff to BuddyPress so I believe bbPress still has the
> > chance to get better (much better).
> >
> > Jane is right, there's no reason to move all the data to somebody's else
> > yard, at least without trying to fix something by ourselves.
> >
> > --
> > ()  Campania Panglicii ?n ASCII
> > /\  http://www.asciiribbon.org/
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 7
> > Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 14:45:38 -0400
> > From: Doug Stewart <zamoose at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Proposal: StackOverflow for WordPress
> > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > Message-ID:
> >        <AANLkTin2NgiNt_rQ_8DZthWmA9N-0mPHUz43Mctl3yQn at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > On 5/13/10, Stas Su?cov <stas at nerd.ro> wrote:
> > > Jane is right, there's no reason to move all the data to somebody's
> else
> > > yard, at least without trying to fix something by ourselves.
> >
> > I would cede your point if it were simply data we were talking about.
> > What SO, et al., offer is /curation/ of that data.
> >
> > At this point, I  think the distinction is roughly this: The DotOrg
> > forums are fields of wildflowers, weeds and prairie grass, with little
> > semblance of "here's where you go to find an answer to Question X" and
> > harried "gardeners" (mods) scurrying about frantically stamping out
> > "contributions" from folks intent on re-growing a patch of daisies
> > while a perfectly fine bit is growing over the next rise.
> > StackOverflow is a local topiary.
> >
> > Both may very well contain the same "plants", it's just an order of
> > magnitude easier to find the bushes shaped like a Shared Host
> > Recommendation in the topiary.
> >
> > --
> > -Doug
> > @zamoose
> > http://literalbarrage.org/blog/
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 8
> > Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 12:21:40 -0700
> > From: Matthew Gerring <mgerring at emrl.com>
> > Subject: [wp-hackers] Bugs caused by adding a second rich editor to
> >        the     add/edit posts screen
> > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > Message-ID: <429CE6F8-49E0-4EF0-A872-EC32C3FB02BC at emrl.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> >
> > Hello all.
> >
> > I wrote a simple addition to a theme that adds a meta box in the add/edit
> > posts screen. It allows you to use the rich editor to edit content that
> > shows up in the sidebar.
> >
> > The problem is that the dialogs for some buttons now appear inside the
> text
> > area for this second rich editor. For instance, clicking the "add link"
> > button on the regular rich editor causes the Add Link dialog to appear in
> > the second rich editor, underneath the grey overlay.
> >
> > Does anyone know why this is happening, or a way around it?
> >
> > -Matthew
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 9
> > Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 16:53:42 -0400
> > From: "Michael E. Hancock" <justmichaelh at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Proposal: StackOverflow for WordPress
> > To: <wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com>
> > Message-ID: <025d01caf2de$60b72fc0$6401a8c0 at dell8600>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
> >        reply-type=original
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Doug Stewart"
> > > StackOverflow is a local topiary.
> >
> > I'd say it's planting season.  Seems there's enough +1's from this list
> to
> > get that growing.  If you don't want to use the Forums, then ignore it.
>  If
> > you want your own, then start plowing.
> >
> > May your harvest be plentiful.
> >
> > MichaelH
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 01:00:45 +0300
> > From: scribu <scribu at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Bugs caused by adding a second rich editor
> >        to the  add/edit posts screen
> > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > Message-ID:
> >        <AANLkTiluFrb-SdH2L-6SDWGT45W22SUa02xLG0Zlx1X6 at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > See this trac ticket:
> >
> > http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/11862
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:21 PM, Matthew Gerring <mgerring at emrl.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all.
> > >
> > > I wrote a simple addition to a theme that adds a meta box in the
> add/edit
> > > posts screen. It allows you to use the rich editor to edit content that
> > > shows up in the sidebar.
> > >
> > > The problem is that the dialogs for some buttons now appear inside the
> > text
> > > area for this second rich editor. For instance, clicking the "add link"
> > > button on the regular rich editor causes the Add Link dialog to appear
> in
> > > the second rich editor, underneath the grey overlay.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know why this is happening, or a way around it?
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://scribu.net
> >
> >
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