[wp-hackers] new menu management 3.0

Piyush Mishra me at piyushmishra.com
Tue Jun 22 03:05:31 UTC 2010


someone did that already :) got this link from another convrsation
called "wp3 menu child pages?"


On 6/22/10, Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Andrew Nacin <wp at andrewnacin.com> wrote:
>> Just to address the feature request here. I think it's perfectly valid,
>> and
>> I'm bummed we couldn't get it into 3.0. We did get auto-add top pages in,
>> because the UX and UI was straightforward.
>> However, dealing with the UX and UI surrounding auto-adding children was
>> more difficult, and after lengthy conversations (and attempted patches)
>> with
>> some of the other devs, we just couldn't nail down what would be
>> appropriate
>> functionality in order to make it happen in time. (I won't get into it
>> here
>> unless someone wants to here it, but it is much more complicated than
>> you'd
>> think.) We keep saying menus are just v1. We would definitely accept this
>> feature request for consideration for v2 of menus, and I'm pretty sure
>> there's already a ticket for it.
>> While building the menus system, I've seen various statements of "I guess
>> I'll just end up using other plugins and wp_list_pages/wp_page_menu then".
>> In some instances, they were legitimate weaknesses and we adjusted. But
>> often, wp_list_pages is far more suitable for the use case being described
>> anyway. ErinDS points out she will continue to use it and some plugins for
>> some clients, and that's perfectly valid.
> This is something I lamented about early on, and I fully understand
> why it didn't make it into 3.0. Still, it's something that I think is
> necessary for menus to be usable for more than trivial cases.
> What I'd really like to see though is more generic than that. I'd like
> what constitutes a "menu item" to be pluggable. Because of the design
> of the menu items, menus basically consist of a static name and URL,
> stored in a custom post type. This is a pretty strange way of thinking
> about menus, it seems to be, because it doesn't allow plugins to
> easily create their own callbacks to produce more than just a simple
> menu item. It doesn't allow for a way to easily create new menu
> "types", as it were.
> Unfortunately, after looking over the code, I see no easy fix for
> this. The menu system seems to make that implicit assumption that a
> menu item is a static thing. If you want menus that dynamically adjust
> to the content of the system, using the new menu system is simply a
> poor fit. You just have to stick with wp_list_pages.
> -Otto
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