[wp-hackers] Putting the P in WordPress

Gavin Pearce Gavin.Pearce at 3seven9.com
Tue Jul 6 18:32:55 UTC 2010


Agreed.

I'd like to see the logic behind the decision to include this function
detailed by the core team - and the pros weighed up against the cons.

If someone from the core team can explain the process behind putting
this in - or was it just chucked in on the fly...

As I see it:

*Pros*
Everyone spells WordPress in the way Matt likes (v. minor issue).

*Cons*
Core code starts to affect the textual output of blogs.
Core code breaks URI paths for some sites (major issue).

This question keeps getting ignored, so to make it a bit clearer....


What do we *gain* with this function to make all Wordpress = WordPress,
except for the added overhead and complications?

What's in it for the WordPress community?

Gav


-----Original Message-----
From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
[mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of
Christopher O'Connell
Sent: 06 July 2010 19:14
To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Putting the P in WordPress

The P function is horrendously offensive and improper, but that is
nothing
compared to the way in which this is being treated by the core team. I
shan't rehash all of the arguments, others have said it far more
elegantly
than I.

But, Matt, the difference between disagreement and disregard is that
when
one disagrees one still takes a moment to consider the pros- and cons-
of
ones argument.

The P function is a purely self-aggrandizing decree -- the sort of
hubris
and abuse that I had resonably hoped the WP community had moved beyond.
As
the Wall Stree Journal states in their editorial philosophy

[We stand] against ... the ukases of kings and other collectivists; and
for
individual autonomy against dictators, bullies and even the tempers of
momentary majorities.

WordPress is meant to be a community, and the reason this has people red
with rage, writing, instead of hacking, is because they are rightly
filled
with disgust and horror at such low action.

~ Christopher

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Matt Mullenweg <m at mullenweg.com> wrote:

> On 7/6/2010 1:30 PM, eric at eamann.com wrote:
>
>> Some time ago I wrote a patch in response to a user's request that we
add
>> Skype
>> and Facebook and LinkedIn and other fields to the profile page ... it
was
>> rejected because "There's a filter there, which means a plugin can
easily
>> control all of this." (ticket #11367)  It makes sense that we not
include
>> additional (trivial) functionality like this into core ... it made
sense
>> there
>> and it still makes sense now.
>>
>
> For what it's worth, I think it would be nice to modernize those
fields,
> and even go a step further to authenticate them where possible. I
would have
> said so if I had seen that ticket.
>
>
>  It doesn't paint a pretty picture of the core teams' opinion of the
rest
>> of the
>> community ...
>>
>
> One of the core tenets of Open Source development is that people can
> disagree, strongly, but still respect each other.
>
> --
> Matt Mullenweg
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