[wp-hackers] [OT] Testing needed for WordTrails plugin fromXerox

[William Canino]

Hello Jesse:

> issues in the next version of the plugin. However, the sidebar widget and trail index use divs
> with border-radius CSS, which is not css2 compatible. I think we would like to keep the

I get the impression you are referring to the CSS2 non-compliance,
whereas I meant XHTML non-compliance, such as

* the "info" tag for your convenience so that your jquery code can
pick up what appears on the fancy hovering callout boxes that screen
readers and mobile browsers cannot see anyway.  (I'd have used "title"
instead, if it were my code.)
* & instead of & in urls in hrefs
* div tags inside a tags
* empty optgroups
* ask an xhtml validator for the rest.

> I supposed another option would be to separate out all of the non-compliant css into files that
> are only included based on settings in the plugin. That way, people who don't mind the css
> compliance break can get the pretty divs, and people that need compliance can get it.

This is one way to do this, but then you get more network fetches,
more source code and possibly an extra get_option at runtime. Instead,
I suggest shipping two versions of the css files, with the same
filename. Site admins who need XHTML compliance can plunk the second
one in the first one's place.  It's extra work for the plugin author
maintaining two versions of files, though.

Nonetheless, I believe that people who need compliance are already
using their own CSS and will never use the CSS you ship as-is.

I can hack the patches for the CSS and typos; For the info tag, read
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/883599/on-jquery-metadata-and-xhtml-compliance
.


2009/10/7 Silverstein, Jesse <Jesse.Silverstein at xerox.com>:
> Working up a php snippet to add trail following to post templates is on our to-do list for a near-future version. We realize that not everyone has sidebars, or wants to use them for trail following. However, if someone hacks it out for us, it may get added sooner, so everyone can benefit :) If you're interested in pulling the information, check out the WordTrailsWidget class for details on how to access the data.
>
> The issue of XHTML compliance is a tricky one. The plugin was developed with XHTML compliance in mind, but we have slipped in a few places. I will be addressing the easy-to-solve issues in the next version of the plugin. However, the sidebar widget and trail index use divs with border-radius CSS, which is not css2 compatible. I think we would like to keep the rounded corners, but in doing so, we may be dropping the possibility of compliance. That said, once we fix the rest of the compliance breaks, it would be easy to rip out all of the border-radius entries in our css files (conveniently located in a css folder).
>
> I supposed another option would be to separate out all of the non-compliant css into files that are only included based on settings in the plugin. That way, people who don't mind the css compliance break can get the pretty divs, and people that need compliance can get it.
>
> Thanks for the feedback so far. Keep it coming!
>
> -Jesse
>
> Jesse.Silverstein at xerox.com
> Xerox Trails team
> Xerox Research Center, Webster
>
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>
>> I agree it could be better marked.  I hope there is a way to put those links
>> at the bottom of each article instead of in the sidebar....
>>
>> Stephen
>
> Exactly what I said and exactly the first mod I will do to this plugin.
>
> I cannot presume that my readers have 27-inch monitors.
>
> W
>
>
> 2009/10/4 Stephen Rider <wp-hackers at striderweb.com>:
>>
>> On Oct 4, 2009, at 12:19 PM, scribu wrote:
>>
>>> I like the ideea of trails, but I can't figure out how to view one.
>>>
>>> I can't get past the Bird's eye view here:
>>> http://blog.trailmeme.com/trails/?t=2bffff2a-efe8-102c-b39a-12313a00c9d2
>>
>> Look for the "Word Trails" sidebar on the right side.
>> <http://blog.trailmeme.com/2009/09/about-trails/?t=8>
>>
>> I agree it could be better marked.  I hope there is a way to put those links
>> at the bottom of each article instead of in the sidebar....
>>
>> Stephen
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