[wp-hackers] Single sign-on with Wordpress & Mediawiki

Jacob wordpress at santosj.name
Sun Oct 28 23:13:18 GMT 2007

So you are saying that interoperability between projects that don't mean 
shit to each other have a better chance of doing so than some 
abstraction layer between the projects and users. phpBB offers such an 
authentication and if you request that they change it, they will link 
you to the documentation that tells you how to link with their system.

OpenID isn't that difficult to implement with two libraries with PHP4 
support. The only thing keeping it back is this mentality that users 
won't use it and they won't without mainstream support in web 
applications. Unless the mainstream you are referring to are web 
application developers and not users. If you are unaware, Microsoft, 
Google, AOL, WordPress.com and others are already backing OpenID. I 
doubt you are smarter than they are, but don't take that personally, I'm 
sure they are smarter than I am too.

Comparing these two scenarios which do you think Users would prefer?

First Solution:
1. Go to site, need to do something.
2. Register, Fill out username.
3. Username is already taken. Fill out another username.
4. Repeat #3 until some obscure username is found to be unique.
5. Keep #4 username in memory for use later.

Some distance time in the future:

6. Hmm, what username did I have before. Go to "Forget Username" and 
fill out form and get username/password from email.

Second Solution:
1. Go to site, need to do something.
2. Fill in URL address to profile from AOL, blogspot, OpenID web site, 
or personal web site in Username field.
3. Register and create password
4. Do whatever
5. Either does not need to store web site in some distance future use 
because can use OpenID.

You must be joking, based on your lack of facts and head up your ass 
attitude. Try again and this time use sources. If you are going to 
blatantly advocate FUD, then I will reserve my right to call you out on it.

Jacob Santos

Robin Adrianse wrote:
> I'm talking about real-life, apparently... the possiblity of having
> standards for these kind of things is pretty slim. Very slim, in fact.
> Anyone who says otherwise (OpenID) is a bit of an optimist to say the least.
> OpenID, while a great idea, isn't going to catch on easily with the general
> public. A tool with only a few geeks (technologically aware people) using it
> isn't going to make a huge impact.
> On 10/28/07, Travis Snoozy <ai2097 at users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>> On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:19:56 -0700, "Robin Adrianse"
>> <robin.adr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 10/28/07, Computer Guru <computerguru at neosmart.net> wrote:
>>>> It would be nice if all these popular open source projects could use
>>>> standards for a lot of things.
>>> I'll have some of whatever he's smoking... :P
>> What are you talking about? Open Source, as a whole, is built on
>> a huge foundation of standards. Not only that, but there's a library
>> for almost everything, and re-use is fairly common. Write a standard
>> with a BSD-licensed reference implementation, make it visible so people
>> know about it, and you're gold.
>> And since I brought up the topic of visibility -- see also: PAM[1], and
>> the PHP bindings[2]. I'm pretty sure that plugging this into the WP auth
>> framework would allow WP and any other PAM-enabled software to work off
>> the same auth tables. The issue is then simply a matter of getting more
>> PHP packages to use PAM, vs. rolling their own internal auth system. ;)
>> --
>> Travis
>> In Series maintainer
>> Random coder & quality guy
>> <http://remstate.com/>
>> [] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluggable_Authentication_Modules
>> [] http://pecl.php.net/package/PAM
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Jacob Santos

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