[wp-hackers] PHP5

Marcos Sader | marcosmedia m at marcosmedia.com
Mon May 21 23:02:47 GMT 2007

I suggest that is time to drop this discussion for good, it is clear that
wordpres won't make the version jump just now, and is good that the main
developers took that position.

Besides, it have became useless and time consuming, nobody reads the whole
thread and most of the messages are based on personal experiences/desires so
there is no real value in most of them, I'm personally sick of reading the
same arguments that have been presented before with their respective
counter-arguments again.

We should turn focus on the next release, features, bugs and enhancements,
if you really need/want to further discuss why php5 is better/worse than
php4, please do it in the php lists.(http://www.php.net/mailing-lists.php)

On 5/21/07, Robert Deaton <false.hopes at gmail.com> wrote:
> To be quite honest, I'm really rather frustrated with much of the BS
> that's been flying around this mailing list for the past couple days,
> from the proponents and opponents of adopting PHP5 for some magical
> future version. Its also frustrating having to read people repeating
> stupid comments because they haven't read the thread or just flat out
> don't know what the hell they're going on about. Let's get a few facts
> straight.
> 1. PHP5 is not more widespread than PHP5. Perhaps it is today on the
> larger hosts, Site5, Godaddy, Dreamhost, ASO, MediaTemple, [insert
> your favourite buzzy host here], but at the same time, the thousands
> upon thousands of smaller hosts out there, relying on nothing but
> cPanel/WHM for their server management, are stuck on PHP4. The smaller
> hosts vastly outnumber the large hosts that everyone can quickly name
> with PHP5 support. Face the facts, PHP4 is still far more common.
> Here's a nice graph for PHP's version distribution as of April 2007.
> http://www.nexen.net/images/stories/phpversion/200704/versions.en.png
> 2. There are advantages to switching, and it is holding developers
> back on features that they might want to implement. Does this mean we
> should switch immediately? No, but there are certainly features of
> PHP5 that we could use and hindrances of PHP4 that we could lose
> (rhyming not intended).
> 3. It is too early to tell. WordPress has been having issues even
> locking down a 4 month development cycle, and yet people are trying to
> predict 1 year into the future? We don't know where PHP will be then,
> we don't know where WordPress will be then, and we don't even know
> that there will be a version 3 by then. Let's take things as they
> come, we're getting ahead of ourselves with even having this
> discussion.
> With those things in mind, right now, despite being one of the people
> who has always actively promoted PHP5 and the only one to even post a
> list of reasons to move to PHP5 on the list so far, I say that we are
> not ready to make a decision on when we should drop support for PHP4.
> Keep it for now, bring this discussion back up later once PHP5 has _at
> least_ a majority marketshare, or a killdate for PHP4 support has been
> announced by the PHP team, and we'll be more prepared to answer the
> question.
> --
> --Robert Deaton
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Marcos Sader
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