[wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on established WP install
Jamie Holly
hovercrafter at earthlink.net
Tue Aug 22 21:01:55 GMT 2006
I just hope we can get this figured out. I got a feeling it is going to end
up being something simple LOL.
The [L] shouldn't make much of a difference. That is just telling the
rewrite_rules that it is at the end of the expression.
One thing you may want to try is turning on rewrite_logs. You can do that in
your server config file by adding these lines:
Rewritelog "{insert absolute or relative path to a log file"
RewriteLogLevel 9
Of course make sure that the server has read/write permissions to the log
file, then restart apache.
I would just go through and do a single test hit then deactive the logging
as it will become very large very quick (it logs image requests, favorite
icon, everything from your server). You can then go through and see if any
of the rule conditions aren't being met or send it to the list so we can
dissect it.
Jamie Holly
http://www.intoxination.net
-----Original Message-----
From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
[mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Vogel, Andrew
(vogelap)
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:35 PM
To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on established WP
install
Jamie...
Thanks for your ongoing assistance. I truly appreciate it (it's extra
nice that it's from a neighbor!).
I'm working remotely today, so will have to check the issues you mention
when I get home this evening.
However, I checked my .htaccess and the WordPress section was as you
presented it EXCEPT that my "RewriteRule . /index.php [L]" line LACKED
the "[L]". I added it.
I'll check the rest this evening when I get home.
-andrew vogel
Manager of Professional Programs
University of Cincinnati
College of Pharmacy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of
> Jamie Holly
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 3:45 PM
> To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> established WP install
>
> That is really odd. You shouldn't have to restore your
> database. Simply changing the permalink_structure back to
> "/index.php/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/" in
> /wp-admin/options.php should fix that. Are you checking to
> make sure that once you do an update on the permalinks that
> your site isn't loading off of cache (ie. Checking to make
> sure the post permalink is actually changed)? It almost has
> to be something similar to that considering the following:
>
> -You are getting the wordpress 404 meaning mod_rewrite is
> working like it should.
>
> -Your .htaccess file is working properly since I loaded it on
> my own server with a clean install of wp2.0.4 and it worked fine.
>
> Verify that your wordpress section of .htaccess is as follows:
>
> # BEGIN WordPress
> <IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
> RewriteEngine On
> RewriteBase /
> RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
> RewriteCond %{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-d
> RewriteRule . /index.php [L]
> </IfModule>
>
> # END WordPress
>
> That will work with or without the /index.php/ (since the
> index.php is forcing the load of the file index.php and the
> query vars won't start until after that)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Jamie Holly
> http://www.intoxination.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of
> Vogel, Andrew
> (vogelap)
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 9:49 PM
> To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> established WP install
>
> AH! I was opening it in an editor. I opened the file in a
> browser and found the boxes and will try what you suggested.
>
> * The category_base was empty, so I left it alone.
>
> * The permalink_structure had
> "/index.php/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/" (no quotes).
> I changed it to "/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/" (no quotes).
>
> I clicked "Update Settings" at the bottom of the options.php
> page to save my change.
>
> I tried visiting my site BEFORE I went to Options->Permalinks
> and got a
> WP-404 (instead of the non-WP 404 I'd been getting -- that's
> sorta progress, I guess).
>
> I went to Options->Permalinks and did NOT click "Update
> Permalink Structure" -- I just visited the page. I visited my
> site again after that and got a WP-404 (instead of the non-WP
> 404 I'd been getting).
>
> I went back to Options->Permalink and clicked "Update
> Permalink Structure" and visited my site. I got a WP-404
> (instead of the non-WP
> 404 I'd been getting).
>
> After those errors, and waiting for the next step, I still
> had to EMPTY my WP database and RESTORE it from backup;
> changing the permalink back to
> "/index.php/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/" (no quotes)
> didn't work.
>
> -drew
> www.drewvogel.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of
> Jamie Holly
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:55 PM
> To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> established WP install
>
> I just did a fresh install of WP2.0.4 and they are both listed there.
> With the fresh install, both are empty, but the options are
> there. Are you sure your navigating to
> http://yourdomain.com/wp-admin/options.php ?
> You need to load the page in a browser and not an editor. If
> you are going to that as a URL and they aren't listed then
> you have a broken installation of Wordpress.
>
> Jamie Holly
> http://www.intoxination.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of
> Vogel, Andrew
> (vogelap)
> Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:42 PM
> To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> established WP install
>
> I downloaded and extracted WP2.04 from WordPress.ORG on my
> test machine and there is no mention of either
> "category_base" or "permalink_structure" in the options.php
> file located in /wp-admin/. I searched options.php for
> "category" and "permalink" as well, again with no matches.
>
> Perhaps it's a different file you're thinking of?
>
> -andrew vogel
> Manager of Professional Programs
> University of Cincinnati
> College of Pharmacy
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Jamie
> > Holly
> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:33 PM
> > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> established
> > WP install
> >
> > They should be there. They are base options for Wordpress that
> > actually stores the permalink structure. These are the same values
> > that are shown on your permalinks page in the Category Base
> and Custom
>
> > Structure fields accordingly. Even if you select one of the
> > pre-defined structures in the Wordpress options, it will
> still appear
> > in the Custom Structure field after you click update, as it then
> > updates that option in the database.
> >
> > Jamie Holly
> > http://www.intoxination.net
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf
> Of Vogel,
> > Andrew
> > (vogelap)
> > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:14 PM
> > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> established
> > WP install
> >
> > I went to /wp-admin/options.php, but searching for
> "category_base" and
>
> > "permalink_structure" both came up with no matches... I've
> got several
>
> > other files in /wp-admin/ that are options-*.php -- like
> discussion,
> > general, head, misc, permalink, reading, and writing --
> could it be in
>
> > one of those?
> >
> > -andrew vogel
> > Manager of Professional Programs
> > University of Cincinnati
> > College of Pharmacy
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On
> Behalf Of Jamie
> > > Holly
> > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:47 PM
> > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > established
> > > WP install
> > >
> > > Last option I can think of. Go to /wp-admin/options.php.
> > Look for the
> > > following:
> > >
> > > category_base (delete anything in this box)
> > >
> > > permalink_structure Paste the following into that box:
> > >
> > > /%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/
> > >
> > > After that go to your options->permalinks page. You don't need to
> > > click the update button, as it will do it automatically for you.
> > >
> > > This will set you back to the standard Date and name based
> > permalinks.
> > > See if that is causing problems for you.
> > >
> > > I tried your .htaccess in one of my virtual hosts and it
> > worked fine.
> > > Of course you could have some plugin messing with things so
> > you might
> > > want to try and disable all of those and re-enable them
> one by one
> > > trying things out.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jamie Holly
> > > http://www.intoxination.net
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf
> > Of Vogel,
> > > Andrew
> > > (vogelap)
> > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:29 PM
> > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > established
> > > WP install
> > >
> > > I believe the problem existed prior to the inclusion of the
> > WPGallery
> > > stuff (even under previous versions of Fedora Core and
> > WordPress, I've
> > > always had "Almost Pretty" permalinks), but I will remove
> > it and try
> > > again just to be sure...
> > >
> > > ... I removed it and got the 404 again. I don't believe it's the
> > > WPGallery stuff in .htaccess.
> > >
> > > -andrew vogel
> > > Manager of Professional Programs
> > > University of Cincinnati
> > > College of Pharmacy
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On
> > Behalf Of Jamie
> > > > Holly
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:22 PM
> > > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > > established
> > > > WP install
> > > >
> > > > Whenever you go to the permalinks page it does a
> > > flush_rewrite rules,
> > > > which basically rewrites the #begin Wordpress section in
> > > .htaccess to
> > > > what you have Wordpress permalinks set at. I noticed you
> > were using
> > > > other rewrites for gallery. Just a quick question - have
> > you tired
> > > > removing that section and seeing if that corrects it? I
> > am not that
> > > > great on rewrite rules so I could be overlooking something
> > > in it that
> > > > could be causing the problem.
> > > >
> > > > Jamie Holly
> > > > http://www.intoxination.net
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf
> > > Of Vogel,
> > > > Andrew
> > > > (vogelap)
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 1:07 PM
> > > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > > established
> > > > WP install
> > > >
> > > > Hrm. That didn't work. Extremely perplexing and more than
> > a little
> > > > frustrating!
> > > >
> > > > Here's what I tried:
> > > >
> > > > * backup WP database
> > > > * cd /var/www/html/
> > > > * mv .htaccess hta.org
> > > > * touch .htaccess
> > > > * chown .htaccess to webserver
> > > > * chmod 664 .htaccess
> > > > * pico /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf:
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > > DocumentRoot "/var/www/html"
> > > > # First, we configure the "default" to be a very
> > restrictive set of
> > > > features.
> > > > #
> > > > <Directory />
> > > > Options FollowSymLinks
> > > > AllowOverride None
> > > > </Directory>
> > > >
> > > > # This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to.
> > > > <Directory "/var/www/html">
> > > > Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes ExecCGI
> > > > AllowOverride None <------ this is the line to be changed
> > > > AcceptPathInfo On
> > > > Order allow,deny
> > > > Allow from all
> > > > </Directory>
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > ...to...
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > > DocumentRoot "/var/www/html"
> > > > # First, we configure the "default" to be a very
> > restrictive set of
> > > > features.
> > > > #
> > > > <Directory />
> > > > Options FollowSymLinks
> > > > AllowOverride None
> > > > </Directory>
> > > >
> > > > # This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to.
> > > > <Directory "/var/www/html">
> > > > Options Indexes FollowSymLinks Includes ExecCGI
> > > > AllowOverride All <------ this is what I changed the line to
> > > > AcceptPathInfo On
> > > > Order allow,deny
> > > > Allow from all
> > > > </Directory>
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > * service httpd restart
> > > > * pico /var/www/html/.htaccess -- verified that it had been
> > > written to
> > > > (it had)
> > > > * opened a webbrowser and pointed it to my page,
> > verifying that the
> > > > URL link of an article changed from
> > > > "http://www.drewvogel.com/index.php/2006/08/18/system-strangen
> > > ess/" to "http://www.drewvogel.com/2006/08/18/system->
> > > strangeness/" (it had).
> > > > * I clicked the link and -- KABOOM! -- non-WP 404.
> > > > * I tried to roll-back -- 'mv hta.org .htaccess', re-add
> > > "/index.php"
> > > > to the permalink line, and restart the server, but it
> > > remained broken.
> > > > Once again, simply VISITING
> > > > Options->Permalink is enough to 'break' it.
> > > >
> > > > What does WP write when Options->Permalink is displayed? Is
> > > there some
> > > > way to compare before and after database entries to see
> > > what's getting
> > > > changed? I had to empty and restore my WP database to
> get it back
> > > > working.
> > > >
> > > > -andrew vogel
> > > > Manager of Professional Programs
> > > > University of Cincinnati
> > > > College of Pharmacy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Jamie
> > > > > Holly
> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 12:05 PM
> > > > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > > > Subject: RE: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > > > established
> > > > > WP install
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > AllowOverride All
> > > > >
> > > > > That will fix it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jamie Holly
> > > > > http://www.intoxination.net
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Handy
> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 12:04 PM
> > > > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > > > established
> > > > > WP install
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe so, yes. Unfortunately, not at a place where
> > > > it's easy to
> > > > > pop onto my server and check.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/21/06, Vogel, Andrew (vogelap)
> > <VOGELAP at ucmail.uc.edu> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You may not be "Captain Obvious"...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <Directory />
> > > > > > Options FollowSymLinks
> > > > > > AllowOverride None
> > > > > > </Directory>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What SHOULD it be? "All"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -andrew vogel
> > > > > > Manager of Professional Programs University of Cincinnati
> > > > > > College of Pharmacy
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > > > > > [mailto:wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On
> > > > > Behalf Of Handy
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 11:38 AM
> > > > > > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] Help needed with two issues on
> > > > > established
> > > > > > > WP install
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 8/21/06, Vogel, Andrew (vogelap)
> > > > <VOGELAP at ucmail.uc.edu> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <snip>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2. I've got my Permalinks set to Custom ("Almost
> > > Pretty") and
> > > > > > > >
> "/index.php/%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/". The goal
> > > > > > > is to get
> > > > > > > > rid of the "/index.php" from my permalinks to make them
> > > > > > > "Pretty". As
> > > > > > > > long as I do not visit Options->Permalinks, my site
> > > > > > > functions as expected.
> > > > > > > > However, if I VISIT Options->Permalinks, my site's
> > > > > permalinks stop
> > > > > > > > functioning unless I set them to Default (I don't
> > even have
> > > > > > > to click
> > > > > > > > "Update Permalinks Settings"; simply visiting the
> > > > > > > Options->Permalinks
> > > > > > > > page breaks permalinks), which breaks internal
> links in my
> > > > > > > site. This
> > > > > > > > is 100% reproducible. The .htaccess file is 664 and
> > > > > > > writable by the server.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > </snip>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm willing to be all wet here with the "Captain Obvious"
> > > > > > > post... but FC5 has AllowOverrides off by default in
> > > the apache
> > > > > > > configs. Have you specifically re-enabled it?
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