[wp-hackers] Setup fonts might be a tiny bit above average size under some circumstances

Roy Schestowitz r at schestowitz.com
Fri Nov 4 15:02:54 GMT 2005

_____/ On Fri 04 Nov 2005 05:01:38 GMT, [Mark Rosenstand] wrote : \_____

> Short: The problem is that WordPress uses "font-size: 1.7em;" for the
> text fields and buttons.
> Long (and rude because of know-all attitude):

Your manners need to improve, I'm afraid. Throughout this conversion it 
has only
been you who chose to be rude; you do not even deny it. You do us no 
justice by
re-humanising that "Linux fanatic" stereotype.

> Roy Schestowitz cluelessly wrote:
>> _/ On Thu 03 Nov 2005 23:43:37 GMT, [Mark Rosenstand] wrote :\__
>> > Hey list,
>> >
>> > I was wondering if you are aware of how ugly the WordPress setup is
>> > on a default GNOME desktop.
>> >
>> > http://borkware.net/~mark/wp-setup.png
>> > http://borkware.net/~mark/wp-login.png
>> Putting aside the fact that "madness" is an overstatement to describe
>> what I  see above,
> Sorry, fixed.

Thanks. It was never a complaint, by the way. Vocal ambiguity perhaps.

>> it is a matter of which distribution you happen to be using.
> Standard fonts are distributed with X.org.


>> It varies depending on which fonts you happen to have installed.
> Not if you test with the standard fonts of the most common
> operating systems instead of assuming that the entire world uses
> Microsoft's fonts.

Not many (if any) of the developers are Windows-oriented and/or
Windows-inclined, so that statement is a bit unfair. Not every time layouts
breaks, should Windows be blamed either.

>> I agree, however,  that  font sets can always be made more generous.
> No need to, the standard ones are both excellent and plenty.

You can never educate an entire world of Web developer. As long as pages with
preferred fonts prevail, there is the need to adapt. Rants lead nowhere.

>> Have  you  in- stalled  any  TrueType fonts packages yet?
> $ find /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts -name '*.ttf' |wc -l
> 22
>> If not, you are likely  to  see more of the same in other Web sites.
> No, the rest of the web looks great, just like it has done for the
> past six years. But of course the rest of the web isn't doing this:
> 	<style type="text/css">
> 	#log, #pwd, #submit {
> 		font-size: 1.7em;
> 	}
> 	</style>

Seems fine and elegant to me. Honestly.

>> I have just tried Ubuntu (GNOME) on a remote host, just as a proof of
>> con- cept.  It all looked fine to me, i.e. no low-resultion fonts.
> Ubuntu isn't a standard.

Why? Because you dislike it? Have I ever said it was a standard?

>> Catering for each individual distro (they come with different fonts)
>> is hard. The least you  can  do is download more packages of font.
> It must be really hard to be a web developer with all those evil Linux
> distributions. Oh boy am I glad you are willing to share your deep
> insight with me. But please don't mind doing so in the future.

How mature. Your later reply (below) shows that your resement is not 
directed at
me, but merely at anyone. Your choice was to be hostile from the moment you
typed in the subject line.

_____/ On Fri 04 Nov 2005 11:57:42 GMT, [Mark Rosenstand] wrote : \_____

> Graeme Lennon wrote:
>> This is silly.
>> If your objection was that you don't like the large font-size, that's
>> cool. It's not an accident. I suggest rephrasing this entire
>> conversation as:
>> "I don't like the large text on the buttons."
>> To which the reply will be:
>> "Ok."
> I thought it was an accident. Actually I still believe it is, as I'm
> sure the buttons are supposed to fit inside the layout:
> http://borkware.net/~mark/wp-setup.png

Okay, pair enough. Then again, I guess it is not crucial as setup is not

> But if it isn't, then that's cool too :-) I'd like to hear it from
> someone actually involved in the project, though.

Thanks for even caring enough to reply to us 'little people'.


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