[wp-hackers] Let's whip WYSIWYG

Moises Kirsch moi at kirsch.com.mx
Mon Jun 13 21:33:37 GMT 2005

Well since I created the WYSIWYG plugin and I tried most of the  
editors there are a few comments that I might be able to make bout  
each of them:

- TinyMCE: Very active project and they are already working on  
support for Safari. Since it has an option for invisible items such  
as comments it shoul be very straightforward to add support for the  
WP "next page" buttons. (probably without even touching the sourcecode).

FCKeditor: Also under heavy development but it seems like it is a  
little more buggy and for some reason users had more trouble with it  
than tinyMCE.

HtmlArea: This project is dead... they even closed the sourceforge  
project page.

widgEditor: This is a very basic editor and could be extended to  
accomplish what Matt wants. It isn't exactly under development and  
was created mostrly to be used as an editor for the comments form.

Xinha: I haven't try this one really. It is a branch of htmlarea and  
seems to be very improved but still they haven't made an official  

With my plugin I made an htmlArea version, an FCKeditor version and  
currently the latest version is based on TinyMCE.

The reasons are that tinyMCE creates the best code, it actually  
cleans the code making sure it only contains the allowed tags and I  
it is very easy to integrate.

There are tons of plugins that work with tinyMCE (spelling, html  
tidy, html import from word, etc).

There is only one thing that I don't like... the "official" plugin  
for adding images it is not opensource... there are others which are  
pretty good (my plugin includes one that has the upload option and I  
even respect WP permissions) but the fact that they have commercial  
plugins makes me thing that at any moment the whole thing can turn  
bad just like it happened to htmlArea.

Just my two cents... and as always sorry if I made a few (or a lot)  
of mistakes with my english.



Moises Kirsch Sandler

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On Jun 13, 2005, at 3:54 PM, Matt Mullenweg wrote:

> At its heart WordPress is a writing application. I think much of  
> the project's success can be attributed to the fact that it does a  
> fairly good job at getting out of your way and letting user's focus  
> on creating and editing their content.
> Their are two notable gaps in WordPress here: WYSIWYG support, auto- 
> save, and spell checking. There are plugins for both of these, but  
> they tend to not integrate as well as they could and the spelling  
> checkers aren't usually compatible with the rich editors.
> The first step is deciding on a WYSIWYG editor, since that's the  
> foundation we're going to have to work with for spelling and auto- 
> save. I've started a list of the open source ones I could find here:
> http://codex.wordpress.org/User:Matt/WYSIWYG
> Feel free to expand the list. We can also capture the discussion  
> from this list to that page for later reference.
> My out-of-the-box favorite is WidgEditor, but it seems to have a  
> lot of bugs left to work out. The most active seems to be FCKeditor.
> -- 
> Matt Mullenweg
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