[wp-forums] Twitter ain't .ORG

[Mika A Epstein]

Keep us AWARE, not away, I need more coffee... *mumble*

Mika A Epstein wrote:
>
> Point is? Do not pull in his tweets to the FORUMS.
>
> If someone starts slagging you on Twitter, and not via those stupid
> ass 'sub tweets' where they don't mention anyone by name, you bring it
> HERE and keep us away. You made it look like a personal vendetta
> against Patrick, which I'm sure you didn't mean. I mean, following a
> guy from the forums to Twitter, reading all the tweets, and picking
> one to throw back at him is exactly what people do to US to harass us.
> You get how that wasn't okay?
>
> If he's at WCSF I'm sure I'll talk to him about this. I told him I
> thought you were having a bad/too-brusque day, which everyone has, but
> the tweet was out of line.
>>
>> Mark Ratledge <mailto:mark at markratledge.com>
>> 21 July, 2013 7:27:49AM
>> Sorry, but it's very simple: sometimes we have to moderate users as
>> well as their posts.
>>
>> The tweet I quoted was complaining about the WP thread, and the
>> twitter link I deleted from his post was pointing toward his twitter
>> account with that tweet, and his post references that tweet.
>>
>> This is the email I got from Patrick:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Dear Mark,
>>>
>>> I'm quite dissapointed in your level of proffesionalism at
>>> http://wordpress.org/support/topic/extremely-slow-load-time-2.
>>>
>>> Let's be clear:
>>>
>>> (1) The Rules do not state anything about twitter.
>>> (2) Anything I say on twitter to another user is beyond WP Forum Rules.
>>> (3) My services were never advertised on the forum.
>>>
>>> Also, I'm not sure why you are pulling in conversations from twitter
>>> into the forum. In fact, that was in response to the Zpanel Forum.
>>>
>>> I will make sure this message also gets to someone a bit more senior.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> -Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I will make sure this message also gets to someone a bit more senior.
>>
>>
>> Right.
>>
>> I wasn't even sarcastic about him hinting at complaining at WCSF.... :)
>>
>> (BTW, I'm away from email until tonight)
>>
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2013, at 12:59 AM, Mika A Epstein wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Today I have to name names, which I hate doing.
>>>
>>> **Patrick reached out to me on Twitter because a moderator
>>> (songdogtech) quoted something he said ON Twitter, in a forum post,
>>> which I have now removed.
>>>
>>> http://wordpress.org/support/topic/extremely-slow-load-time-2?replies=10&view=all 
>>>
>>>
>>
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>> Mika A Epstein <mailto:ipstenu at ipstenu.org>
>> 20 July, 2013 11:59:52PM
>> Today I have to name names, which I hate doing.
>>
>> **Patrick reached out to me on Twitter because a moderator
>> (songdogtech) quoted something he said ON Twitter, in a forum post,
>> which I have now removed.
>>
>> http://wordpress.org/support/topic/extremely-slow-load-time-2?replies=10&view=all 
>>
>>
>>
>> > @PatrickNommensen said via twitter:
>> >
>> >Sometimes moderators take all the fun away from helping other folks
>> on open source support forums....
>> >
>> > Right.
>> >
>> > Read the link. We ask that you keep support in these forums, and
>> not via email or twitter.
>> > And not link to sell your services. Any other mod will tell you that.
>>
>> Are we okay with people offering to help for hire, or pushing their
>> services? No. But without seeing what the link was that was
>> moderated, the best I can say is this: The first comment was okay,
>> assuming the link was to a services site of some sort, the second was
>> in no way cool. (If it was "I replied to you on Twitter..." then that
>> would actually be okay, but worthy of a 'Hey, we like to keep help
>> here, so we don't end up like this: http://xkcd.com/979/ " )
>>
>> Everyone, we need to be a little LESS aggro about links like that.
>> The point is to HELP people. That's got to be first, even well above
>> 'Keep the forums clean and well regulated.' If you're JUST stepping
>> in to moderate without any reply to be constructive, you're not
>> helping as much as you think you are.
>>
>> Mark, I'm thinking you just had a bit of a brusque day and came off
>> sounding harsher than you meant. But leave Twitter out of it. If
>> someone wants to rant out there and insult us, let 'em. Half the
>> time, those rants aren't actually about what you think they were anyway.
>>
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