[wp-forums] Forums above posts.

[Les Bessant]

"Sticky" posts are more like announcements than normal posts. Surely they
could be isolated in their own section above the list of forums? 

So we have a structure like this:

:: FAQs, Stickies, Announcements :::

:: List of Forums::

::Recent posts (if it *has* to be there[1]) ::


[1] If we need a list of all recent posts in all forums, it would be more
useful if it was paged, so we could see more than the last "x" recent posts
at busy times.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: wp-forums-bounces at lists.automattic.com 
> [mailto:wp-forums-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of 
> Lara @ Anubis Marketing
> Sent: 17 September 2006 17:39
> To: wp-forums at lists.automattic.com
> Subject: RE: [wp-forums] Forums above posts.
> 
> Isn't there a way then, where we could highlight ONLY posts 
> like stickies on
> the front page, even if it has to be above the forum list?
> Right now, people don't know to scroll down to even see the 
> forum topic
> list. I find that extremely counter productive to a forum. Not that I
> haven't said that before, and not that others haven't said 
> the very same
> thing. But since we're talking about things like the codex 
> and FAQs and all
> that mess, why not put links to those things, including the 
> sticky or even a
> page with the forum rules on it, before the list of forum 
> topics? Why does
> it HAVE to be a list that long of recent posts? Why does it have to be
> recent posts, and not just a "Must Reads" TOC? I don't 
> understand where the
> aversion to making changes comes from... We're peddling 
> backwards on this,
> and most of the other topics here, and there's no valid reason for it.
> 
> Everyone knows that the most valuable real estate on any web 
> site or page is
> "above the fold"... On my 17 inch monitor at 1024 resolution, 
> the forum
> topic list is way below it.
> I agree that there are important things that anyone who's a 
> first timer to
> the forums should know. But is one of those things "IE sucks" 
> or "Where do I
> get this?" ?? I don't think so... it's the rules, it's the 
> FAQs we've been
> talking about, it's the "Step back and take a deep breath 
> before you come in
> here and panic (and most likely annoy people because you 
> haven't read what
> we think is important for you to read beforehand)" type stuff 
> we need people
> to see FIRST. Not a list of recent topics. 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> This is a change that has been suggested and I am absolutely 
> opposed to.
> Because it's a significant change and I'm not just being a 
> difficult SOB
> I'll try and explain why.
> 
> We have had sticky posts for a long time. We all know they 
> are there to
> convey frequently needed information. In the case of the 
> rules they are
> there to tell people how we expect them to act. They are a 
> different colour.
> They never move. They are referred to often by those people answering
> questions. Read that last sentence again. They are sticky, 
> they are coloured
> differently and people still do not read them or they miss them.
> 
> And you want the forums _above_ the stickies?
> 
> How are people going to see them there?
> An excellent request and one I have asked for before too is a 
> clear signpost
> for users to create a new post. Right now it is not intuitive.
> _Where_ that signpost goes is up for discussion but the fact 
> people don't
> know where to post is not - IMO - because they can't find the 
> forums but it
> is because the scroll down-click-scroll down stuff is 
> confusing. Since when
> is moving the forum list going to help that?
> 
> All I can see moving the forums up will do is have regular 
> helpers screaming
> at people for not using the now hidden sticky posts. You 
> think it's bad now,
> it can only get worse.
> 
> There you go. That's why I think moving them will make forum 
> life worse.
> 
> P.
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