[wp-edu] Creation of Tables in a Post or Page in WordPress

Fri Oct 8 18:23:28 UTC 2010

Dave - Indeed, that has been my concern with many plugins, but up until the
recent breakage, TinyMCE Advanced was working wonderfully despite not having
been updated. I will have to check out WP Super Edit as well, though.

Loren, I've been eyeing that table plugin - do you have any experience with
it?

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On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 2:16 PM, <loren at nbseminary.com> wrote:

>  Hi Dave,
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>
>
> There is a plugin that handles the creation and managing of html tables.
> http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-table-reloaded/.
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> *From:* wp-edu-bounces at lists.automattic.com [mailto:
> wp-edu-bounces at lists.automattic.com] *On Behalf Of *Whisler, Dave
> *Sent:* October 8, 2010 10:26 AM
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> *To:* wp-edu at lists.automattic.com
> *Subject:* Re: [wp-edu] Creation of Tables in a Post or Page in WordPress
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> Helen,
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> I’ll be sure to keep everyone posted.    Regarding the plugin you’ve been
> using (TinyMCE Advanced), I saw it but am not pursuing it, since it’s not
> officially compatible with WP 3.x
>
>
>
> It’s not been updated since 12/09 either, plus regarding whether it works
> in WP 3.x, 37 say yes, but 9 say it’s broken.
>
> I try to avoid any plugins that aren’t officially compatible with the
> release I’m using and/or haven’t been updated within the last 6 months (if
> WP has been upgraded in that timeframe).
>
>
>
> Dave
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> *From:* wp-edu-bounces at lists.automattic.com [mailto:
> wp-edu-bounces at lists.automattic.com] *On Behalf Of *Helen Hou
> *Sent:* Friday, October 08, 2010 1:04 PM
> *To:* wp-edu at lists.automattic.com
> *Subject:* Re: [wp-edu] Creation of Tables in a Post or Page in WordPress
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> Hi Dave,
>
>
>
> We've been using TinyMCE Advanced (plugin) to add the table buttons to the
> editor, in addition to a couple others (anchor and HR). It generally works
> perfectly but needs to be set up on each new site. I've also recently
> noticed that some buttons have disappeared, though - I imagine it's a
> conflict with another plugin. I'm very to interested to hear your thoughts
> on the other plugins you mentioned!
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Helen
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> Helen Hou-Sandi
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> On Oct 8, 2010, at 12:45 PM, "Whisler, Dave" <dkwhisle at uncc.edu> wrote:
>
>  Got a question:   I’ve built a WordPress 3.01 multisite for all of the
> Faculty/Staff in our Engineering College.
>
>
>
> I’ve posted this question below and here at our main WP site:
> http://coefs.uncc.edu/2010/10/no-table-support-in-wp-visual-editor-and-solutions/
>
>
>
> I’ve been very impressed with Word Press in the 6 months or so since I’ve
> “dove in” to it.
>
>
>
> However, I was very surprised to find that the standard Visual Editor in WP
> has no way to create a tables (IE: no Table widget in the toolbar, no
> wizard, etc…) and even more surprised by the near silence on this issue.
>
>
>
> Several faculty noticed this as well (thus, I’m not the only one) and you’d
> think having a Table Wizard on the toolbar would be standard fare of an
> WYSIWYG editor these days (not to mention other formatting tools).
>
>
>
> I kept thinking that we were somehow missing the boat and simply
> overlooking the obvious…..  Especially when my Google searches didn’t find
> the answer – I thought I was just having a bad brain day.   Eventually I
> came to see that I was right – there simply was no built-in method in WP to
> do tables in the Visual Editor.   I was stunned that WP, as awesome as it
> is, didn’t have this as part of the basic core.
>
>
>
> Here’s the options I’ve found in my research:
>
>
>
> 1.       Create the table in MS-Word, MS-Excel and then paste it into the
> visual editor
>
>
>
> 2.       Write the HTML yourself, use an HTML wizard on a website, or your
> favorite HTML editor (Dream Weaver, etc..) to generate the HTML, then in the
> WP editor, switch to HTML mode and then cut-n-paste it into your WP
> page/post.
>
>
>
> 3.       Use Microsoft Live Writer 2010<http://explore.live.com/windows-live-write>(free client-side windows app) – as it has many fine features AND allows you
> to completely manage your posts AND pages.  It also has it's one set of
> plug-ins (go here:  Windows Live Gallery<http://gallery.live.com/default.aspx?pl=8>),
> but the standard install seems to do most of what you'll need.
>
>
>
> 4.       Find a WP Plug-in that provides the missing table feature (and
> other formatting tools)
>
> a.       WP Super Edit:  WordPress › WP Super Edit « Word Press Plug-ins<http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-super-edit/>
>
> b.      CKEditor:             WordPress › CKEditor For WordPress «
> WordPress Plugins<http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/ckeditor-for-wordpress/>
>
> c.       FolioPress:          WordPress › Foliopress WYSIWYG « WordPress
> Plugins <http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/foliopress-wysiwyg/>
>
> Live Writer Pros:   I’ve just installed Live Writer this morning and have
> been testing it – and it looks pretty nice and seems to work well.    Has
> many nice formatting features and is similar to http://scribefire.com(free popular browser add-on for Fire Fox/Safari/Chrome).   But, is not as
> limiting as Scribe Fire.   Scribe Fire does NOT have the table wizard NOR
> does it have the ability to create or edit “Pages” – it can only do
> “Posts”.   However, Live Writer can do both.   And you can create new
> pages/posts off-line and then publish them later (which might come in handy
> sometime).
>
>
>
> Live Writer Cons:   It is yet another “app” that has to be
> installed/managed/upgraded AND you’ll have to teach people how to use it
> (though it’s not hard…. But you know how it is..)   Being a Microsoft app,
> it might yet be inserting a lot of junk into each post/page that you create
> (not sure if this is the case…. Just guessing on past experience).     I did
> see a lot of positive reviews of it from WP users, however, I think I may
> have stumbled across a complaint from someone that later edited the “table”
> in the WP editor which had earlier been created using Live Writer and it
> messed up the formatting.     It’s possible this was an issue with an
> earlier release of WP and/or with an earlier release of Live Writer – so
> take this with a grain of salt – you’ll need to try that out and see if it
> really is an issue or not.   Oh, and one more Con for Live Writer.   You
> guessed it.  Being a Microsoft product, it only runs on Windows XP/Windows
> 7.   So, the Mac and Linux crowd get left out.  Not good.
>
>
>
> WP Plug-ins:   I’m going to review/install/test the 3 plug-ins mentioned
> above (the 1st is probably the best one) and see which one is the best (if
> any).
>
>
>
> I want to find the optimal solution and if WP is working on adding more
> formatting features to the standard Visual Editor, as the best option is
> always to stick to the core product – the less plug-ins and/or other
> ancillary software we have to utilize, the easier it is to administer (less
> stuff to install/upgrade, less potential breakage when upgrading, less
> potential security breaches, less training of the end-users, etc…).
>
>
>
> Please let me know if you have another other solutions that are proven to
> work well and if you have tried any of these above (and which one you
> recommend).
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
> David K. Whisler *| *Oracle & MySQL DBA/Developer & Joomla Administrator
>
> UNC Charlotte *| *The William States Lee College of Engineering
>
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>
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