Almost lost your reply. We tend to reply at the TOP of the notes rather than the bottom. :D <br><br>Check out <a href="http://wpdocsteam.wordpress.com">http://wpdocsteam.wordpress.com</a> for a to do list and information with links to Codex Guidelines, styles, and how to contribute. We need people to just click the Random Page button to check links and grammar and details, and people to fix articles that need updating and fixing, and people to contribute new articles. All the information is at that site. <br>
<br>Begin by logging in through the WordPress Support Forum, then logging in again through the Docs link at <a href="http://codex.wordpress.org/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin">http://codex.wordpress.org/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin</a> Edit the page and write a little about yourself so we know who you are and your skill set, and use that page to practice writing in Mediawiki code. At the bottom of the Edit preview is a link to Editing Help with all the examples of how to write in Mediawiki. <br>
<br>From there, hit the to do list and see what needs doing. We need people of all levels and skills. <br><br>Welcome and thanks!<br><br>Lorelle<br><br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 6:24 AM, Wayne Hatter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wayne@wordpresslivehelp.com" target="_blank">wayne@wordpresslivehelp.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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From: Lorelle on WordPress<<a href="mailto:lorelleonwordpress@gmail.com" target="_blank">lorelleonwordpress@<u></u>gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [wp-docs] Joining Forces: Support<br>
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I've worked with some three person teams on many projects and love it for<br>
that reason, Andrea. There are a LOT of plates to spin when it comes to the<br>
Codex. We've never been able to get someone to coordinate the international<br>
versions and I fear for what are on those pages, for example.<br>
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The WordPress Meetup group here in Portland has asked me to do a WordPress<br>
Codex evening followed by a Codex Day. I'll be posting about that in a bit,<br>
and I'd love to see more such projects from WordCamps and WordPress<br>
Meetups, too, and that takes some team coordination as well.<br>
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Lorelle<br>
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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Andrea Rennick<<a href="mailto:andrea@ronandandrea.com" target="_blank">andrea@ronandandrea.<u></u>com</a>>wrote:<br>
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Ideally a team of three. One is too few (what if they get busy? then it<br>
stalls), and two can disagree (another stall) while a third can be a<br>
tiebreaker if needed. Or a sane person, depending. :P<br>
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I'm just tossing out ideas here.<br>
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a.<br>
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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Doug Sparling<<a href="mailto:doug.sparling@gmail.com" target="_blank">doug.sparling@gmail.<u></u>com</a>>wrote:<br>
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I like the idea as well.<br>
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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Lorelle on WordPress<<br>
<a href="mailto:lorelleonwordpress@gmail.com" target="_blank">lorelleonwordpress@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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This is so exciting. The Docs team has been walking on egg shells for<br>
years over the confusion of the WordPress Handbook, and I'm eager to see<br>
new energy being sent in this direction.<br>
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The close ties between the Forum and Codex have been there since the<br>
beginning. However, time and skills serving the Forum and the time and<br>
skills serving documentation are distinctive, as several people mentioned.<br>
I agree that there needs to be one or two people overseeing the<br>
organizational structure, management, and maintenance of the Codex.<br>
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Having a site of our own has been essential and lacking, which is why we<br>
created the unofficial docs task list not long ago. It was critical that we<br>
find a better way of communicating and keeping our community connected than<br>
the mailing list. As it was "unofficial," we haven't done much to promote<br>
it or work with it, but it was a start. We need to have a place to support<br>
and educate each other on how to write for the Codex and offer task lists<br>
beyond those we've had in the past on the Codex, so I'm excited about<br>
having our own space or making the current blog on WordPress.com official.<br>
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The mailing list has not been the sole line of communication either. As<br>
many do, I work with many people one on one to help them write and edit for<br>
the Codex and assign tasks, communicating with the mailing list when<br>
necessary for edits and such.<br>
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As we struggled to understand the role the WordPress Handbook and<br>
WordPress Lessons played in the role of documentation in the WordPress<br>
Community, we've come to realize the Codex best serves the WordPress<br>
Community by providing support for issues found within the Forums,<br>
expanding upon Learn WordPress instructions for the WordPress Lessons<br>
section, and developing more extensive documentation and guides beyond the<br>
basics found within the help files, especially servicing developers and<br>
programmers.<br>
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While melding together Forum and Codex sounds great on the surface, I<br>
agree with Andrea and others that we need to have one or more people<br>
focused on the bigger picture overseeing the Codex, thus supporting the<br>
overall WordPress Community better.<br>
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Thanks for the survey, Jane, and for helping with all of this.<br>
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Lorelle<br>
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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Andrea Rennick<<a href="mailto:andrea@ronandandrea.com" target="_blank">andrea@ronandandrea.<u></u>com</a><br>
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It makes totally sense, because Support& Docs are two sides of the<br>
same coin. :) If users can't understanding docs or can't find them, they<br>
post in the forums. ;P<br>
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Better docs mean less support issues, because people don't scale. And<br>
the people answering questions are the first ones who see the need for new<br>
docs. Because they answer the same questions over and over (and over) again.<br>
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Getting people to read docs is a separate issue, but having support and<br>
docs work hand in hand in tandem is a big first step.<br>
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I think half the people overlap anyway, yes?<br>
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a.<br>
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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Chip Bennett<<a href="mailto:chip@chipbennett.net" target="_blank">chip@chipbennett.net</a>><u></u>wrote:<br>
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Personally, I love the idea. Speaking as a contributor group member<br>
who tries to keep in the loop regarding support and/or Codex issues that<br>
impact our group (or issues where our contributor group can be helpful),<br>
such consolidation is welcome.<br>
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Chip<br>
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On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Jane Wells<<a href="mailto:jane@automattic.com" target="_blank">jane@automattic.com</a>><u></u>wrote:<br>
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Hi everyone. The results of the recent surveys to identify active<br>
contributors and elect team reps made it pretty clear that the docs team is<br>
in a bit of a slump, organizationally speaking. Only 5 people from the<br>
wp-docs post responded, and of those, 2 were new or not yet contributing,<br>
and there was no consensus re reps among the remaining 3 respondents. It<br>
got me thinking about how we organize contributors, what has worked well<br>
elsewhere in the WP ecosystem and in other free software projects, and<br>
leads me to this proposal: what if we combined forums and docs into one<br>
Support team?<br>
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Looking back at the Codex activity from the past six months or year,<br>
chunks of it have been tied to forum mods (like Ipstenu and Andrea_r),<br>
other contributor groups (like Chip on the Theme Review Team), and new<br>
releases. Not that how Automattic/WordPress.com organizes itself should<br>
decide anything, but their support team manages forums, email support, and<br>
docs, and it seems to work pretty well. They have a schedule for reviewing<br>
existing documentation so it never gets too far out of date, and the people<br>
on the front lines with users in the forums and via email can see very<br>
clearly where they need to beef up documentation. I'm thinking this could<br>
work well for .org, too. Those who are strong writers and just want to<br>
contribute to documentation could still do so, but within a context of what<br>
our user support needs are at any given time based on the actual support<br>
requests.<br>
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What I'm envisioning is less siloing of contributor personnel, with<br>
one group blog at <a href="http://make.wordpress.org/support" target="_blank">make.wordpress.org/support</a> that uses tags like<br>
forums and codex to organize posts, and has pages to help orient new<br>
contributors and get them started. These mailing lists could fade away in<br>
favor of email subscriptions from the blog, which are more easily<br>
searchable and would be more visible to potential contributors. Within the<br>
uber-group, some people would naturally gravitate toward specific tasks<br>
while others would multi-task as they have been doing.<br>
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Over time we could expand the purview of the group to include things<br>
like moderating instructional videos and comments at <a href="http://wordpress.tv" target="_blank">wordpress.tv</a>(and start embedding appropriate videos into codex), possibly helping to<br>
staff in-person help desks in local communities and/or at events like<br>
WordCamps and Meetups, etc. I think the prospects are pretty exciting, and<br>
I could see this becoming the biggest and most active of all the<br>
contributor groups, which would be awesome.<br>
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If there are any strong objections to this approach, please reply to<br>
this thread today so we can discuss. If not, and everyone is willing to<br>
give this a shot and all work together (at least as an experiment for, say,<br>
the next release cycle or two), I'll go ahead and set up the group blog<br>
tomorrow.<br>
<br>
Jane<br>
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