[wp-design] Molly talks about WP2

Fri Jan 6 10:10:09 GMT 2006

I agree and disagree. I'd rather have Joen concentrate this week on the
login page and dashboard. Concentrate, and focus all our collective efforts
on the battle plan. That way we'll get things done.

Yes you're right about the write page being the most important page, but we
have spent a year on that one page and not really talked about the other
pages. It's not like we're not going to get round to it. We'll be having
this conversation and a lot more detailed one, next week when it's time to
tackle that page. Right now I'm say we should all pool our energies in one
direction. Tick a few boxes at least as concepts, flying through what we
like and don't like, before we move on.

Joen's busy as hell anyway that he won't be able to do both which is why I'm
saying rather than get nothing done, we take baby steps.

The idea of skinning is cool for sure, and that could be part of the options
page, definitely.

On 1/6/06, Michael Heilemann <heilemann at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The thing about the write page, is that it is the most important page in
> the entire admin, and it contains most of the fundamental mechanics of the
> admin. Also, it's currently the defacto standard for the header (and footer
> for that matter) sections of the design.
>
> So I do think it's important that we nail as a concept, before we move on
> to messing with the other pages. That's not to say that we can't mess around
> with them, but I see the Write Page as the proverbial litmus test.
>
> And if Joen has issues with the way it looks or feels, then I trust his
> keen spidersense enough, that I would like to see whether he might want to
> take it in a slightly different direction.
>
> It's not my impression that it'll have to be torn down and rebuilt from
> scratch
>
> In regards to the 'blueness' of Shuttle at this moment, it was always my
> intention that it be easily skinnable. People like to customize, and I say
> we give them the option. This is the reason I included the green and pink
> colorschemes in the Write Page (they're 'powerful' on purpose).
>
> I'd rather see us go for a more neutral colorscheme than push it too far
> in the blue direction.
>
> Speed is of essence though, and I say we work on the Dashboard and Login while
> Joen does his thing on the Write Page...
>
> Those are my two cents,
> Mike
>
> On 1/6/06, khaled Abou Alfa < brokenkode at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Right Ok, I like the discussion and it's good that we're talking again
> > and thinking for the future. I'll try and address as many points as I can
> > right now and then throughout the day. The first point however I should
> > mention is that we should be CONCENTRATING on the dashboard and the login
> > page.
> >
> > Forget the write page, and the navigation, as that's common throughout
> > the design we'll have a chance to tweak this throughout the month. The main
> > impentus this should be surrounding the login page and the dashboard.
> >
> > So far regarding the latest versions, I've heard it's too blue and
> > therefore overwhelming. Point made, how does Mike, Matt and Ryan feel about
> > the amount of blue? It's a different direction for sure. Remember the amount
> > of times any user sees this page are limited and yet it's a very important
> > page because it's also the first page that we actually see.
> >
> > I've done a couple of more mock ups and I'll concentrate on going in a
> > different direction completely for future mock ups and actually use
> > different colours so that we have a few options to choose from. Anyone else
> > have anything to share? Bryan?
> >
> > Regarding making it public, I think it's imperative that we do, but as
> > Joen said, this is what we're aiming for 2.1 for the future we could
> > do???? Too soon to talk about it but I was fully intending to talk about
> > posting our designs and thoughts once this month was over and all the work
> > we did throughout was complete. So I'm pretty happy with that.
> >
> > Icons, well I've actually started sketching some things. Whether we use
> > them or not is besides the point, at least there's some action going on
> > here, since it's pretty important that we have something ready. We'll see
> > how it goes.
> >
> > As for the write page, guys seriously we'll get to that next week.
> > Patience. This is part of the reason it's taken us this long, we all get
> > excited and side tracked :) (I'm guilty as everyone else). Let's focus our
> > energies right here and now.
> >
> > k
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/6/06, Joen Asmussen < joen at noscope.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Not in the sense that "this is what we chose to do for 2.1: now what
> > > would you like changed / improved in 2.2 or 2.5?"
> > >
> > > J
> > >
> > > Michael Heilemann wrote:
> > >
> > > But finishing what we've started half-way defies asking for people's
> > > opinion, doesn't it? I mean, by that time, it'll be 'too late'.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 1/5/06, Joen Asmussen <joen at noscope.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'd vote for finishing what we started here, and getting it into
> > > > wordpress 2.1, and THEN going public and asking for peoples opinion.
> > > >
> > > > J
> > > >
> > > > Joshua Sigar wrote:
> > > > >> What do you guys think of polishing the current
> > > > >>
> > > > > Write Page
> > > > >
> > > > >> and showing it to the WP community, asking for their
> > > > >>
> > > > > harshest
> > > > >
> > > > >> critique? Then at least we'll know whether or not
> > > > >>
> > > > > we're on
> > > > >
> > > > >> the right track...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> - Mike
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > Sure, since we listened to Molly, why don't we listen
> > > > > even more people.
> > > > > However you want to do it, I advise that we also show
> > > > > it to wp-hackers list.
> > > > > They will have some smart comments.
> > > > > Remember why I agreed when Matt asked to make this
> > > > > list public?
> > > > >
> > > > > But why do we need to polish it first? Why don't we
> > > > > just show them the
> > > > > latest mock-up?
> > > > >
> > > > > ----
> > > > > Joshua
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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