[wp-design] HTML Comps?

Michael Heilemann heilemann at mac.com
Wed Feb 16 22:23:31 GMT 2005


Okay, let me just add to that:

The guys at 37signals are super talented, more so than me I'm sure. 
They're entitled to their opinion obviously (duh!), but I do disagree.

Take into account that I like to begin with pen and paper though...

- Mike


On 16/2-2005, at 23.19, Michael Heilemann wrote:

> I don't think he's right at all. Cutting it either way is entirely 
> missing the point.
>
> It took me 30 minutes perhaps to think up as well as move stuff 
> around, and it was out the door. And if we were to press the 
> proverbial 'go' button, I could sit down and pretty much nail the 
> design as it looks on the sketch.
>
> If I had to do the same sketch using only my favorite browser and text 
> editor combo, it'd take me maybe twice, maybe even three or four times 
> what I can do in Photoshop. And knowing myself, I'd quickly get caught 
> up in making minute adjustments and code layout beautification.
>
> All respect to both Simon and David, but they're way off the mark if 
> their workflow goes 'Graphic Designer > Programmer > Product', when it 
> should go 'Graphic Designer > Programmer > Graphic Designer > 
> Programmer > Graphic Designer > Programmer > Graphic Designer > 
> Programmer > Product'.
>
> Now I happen to do my own layouts in CSS / XHTML almost exclusively, 
> but that's primarily because I am the pipeline :).
>
> But in cases such as this, where we're people with fulltime jobs, 30 
> minutes is maybe the only time we can spare, in which case it is a lot 
> faster to quickly adjust a PS template rather than having to figure 
> out classnames, identifiers and cryptic XHTML structures (sorry W3C, 
> but div's just weren't quite ready for primetime layout business, no 
> matter what you say).
>
> As soon as we agree that we have something we can work with, I 
> definitely think we should proceed to a concept in CSS / XHTML.
>
> - Mike
>
> On 16/2-2005, at 23.05, Matt Mullenweg wrote:
>
>> http://www.loudthinking.com/arc/000406.html
>>
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