[spam-stopper] User-agent required when submitting spam?

[james young]

Yes.

That question reminds me to ask about proxies, when they report the IP
making the request; should we pass that along?  It's possibly a useful
signal, but it's also not verifiable.  But this is perhaps a tangent.

-James


On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Michael Dale <mdale at dalegroup.net> wrote:
> Are you at least sending the commenter IP address? That plus the comment should be enough I would have thought.
>
>
> On 03/03/2012, at 12:39 PM, james young wrote:
>
>> I wasn't talking about the comment check, but about submitting spam.
>>
>> My sense is that it's worth avoiding Mediawiki databases, complexity-wise.
>>
>> -James
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Michael Dale <mdale at dalegroup.net> wrote:
>>> Why is another table required? Just send the user agent when the user submits the comment/message whatever…
>>>
>>> There should be no need to record the user agent.
>>>
>>> Unless you want to be able to resubmit messages, then I would just create a new column in the existing comments table.
>>>
>>> Yes of course you can submit a fake user agent (or from the looks of it, none at all will work too) but then the anti-spam system will not work as well.
>>>
>>> Michael.
>>>
>>> On 03/03/2012, at 12:18 PM, james young wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey there -
>>>>
>>>> I'm building a new Akismet plugin for Mediawiki, & I've noticed
>>>> something about submitting spam - the user-agent is necessary.  Is it
>>>> possible to use a placeholder value, or not submit one at all?  The
>>>> user agent is easily spoofable, & recording that will require building
>>>> out a new table in the database, pruning old entries, etc.
>>>>
>>>> It's a headache for something of questionable value, is what I'm saying.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> -James
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