[buddypress-dev] Data Portability and Microformats

Wed Apr 2 23:57:41 GMT 2008

Andy,

I'm glad you brought up this issue. I'm very interested in how BuddyPress
will shirk the silos.

First, the DiSo project: sweet. I love the idea of managing your social
information in one place and letting your networks leech it from there.
Awesome.

Honestly, before seeing your thoughts I was going to suggest that, for the
"currently doing" feature of BuddyPress, piping in Twitter feeds so that we
don't have to manage yet _another_ constant update mechanism. Now I realize
my thinking needs to switch from "use the popular silo" to "leave the silos
behind." Instead of pushing BuddyPress to use Twitter, Twitter needs to be
piping in my updates from where I keep it.

Anyway, enough of that. Just wanted to share my switch from one mode of
thought to another. Kudos, and I'll let this stuff keep percolating. 

Ryan

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Today's Topics:

   1. RE: Could we know where to put the files that	are	available
      for testing on our Wordpress-mu sites? (Christopher Johnson Gieseke)
   2. Re: Could we know where to put the files that	are	available
      for testing on our Wordpress-mu sites? (Andrea)
   3. Proposed BuddyPress feature: Favourites
      (Chris Taylor - stillbreathing.co.uk)
   4. Data Portability and Microformats (Andy Peatling)
   5. Re: Hello (Andy Peatling)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 14:34:13 -0600
From: "Christopher Johnson Gieseke"
	<christopher at portallanguageservices.com>
Subject: RE: [buddypress-dev] Could we know where to put the files
	that	are	available for testing on our Wordpress-mu sites?
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I had placed the files like that page says. I was thinking that due to the
number of errors I was getting that some of the files really went somewhere
else.    

I'll try creating additional users and see if that makes the profile work.
I'd love it if someone could add a page explaining how errors should be
reported because I had quite a few and I'd like to report them correctly.

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On 1-Apr-08, at 6:54 PM, Christopher Johnson Gieseke wrote:

I assume  that the theme goes in "themes" and plugins  go in  "mu-plugins",
but are all of the other files plugins or do some of them need to go in
another directory.

I tried placing the files that way and I couldn't even get a profile photo
to upload and considering how there were screenshots of  Buddypress with
Profile images, I have to think that maybe something isn't right.

Hey Christoper, check out this page as it will explain more:

http://trac.buddypress.org/wiki/installing-buddypress

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Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 23:47:08 +0100
From: "Chris Taylor - stillbreathing.co.uk"
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Subject: [buddypress-dev] Proposed BuddyPress feature: Favourites
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Hi gang,

(Better let everyone know: I'm in the UK - well, the People's Republic
of Yorkshire - so my spelling of some words maybe a little strange!)

Everyone knows that people love to make lists. In several of the
popular social networking sites users can create lists of their
favourite books, movies or bands Thinking about that today I had an
idea - we could make that not just a feature, but a dynamic feature.
Here's the deal:

The BP admin installs the "Favourites" plugin and goes to set it up.
They decide they want people to be able to choose their favourite
books, movies and bands. They create those three new favourites
"types". For each of those types they have default fields (name,
rating, reason for choice) and a couple of configurable fields as well
(so they can enter artist for albums, author for books etc).

Users can then enter as many items as they want into each "type" -
books, movies etc - give them a rating etc. Their lists can appear
with a template tag on their profile favourites("books"). And if the
data is stored in a central table it should be easy to pull out global
top 10's, search favourites, see how often a certain book (or movie,
or cheese, or breed of dog) appears. The tables would be something
like (pseudo-SQL):

table wp_favourite_types (
id int,
title varchar(64),
slug varchar(64)
)

table wp_user_favourites (
id int,
user_id int,
favourite_type int,
title varchar(255),
rating smallint,
reason varchar(max),
field_1 varchar(max),
field_2 varchar(max),
field_3 varchar(max)
)

The power of this feature is it doesn't lock site admins down to only
getting a few types of the more usual favourites, but create their own
types if they want. So you want to see what everyone's favourite beer
is? No problem, just create the type "Beer". How about everyone's
favourite tree? Sorted.

Anyway, just an idea. What do people think?

Chris

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:21:27 -0700
From: Andy Peatling <andypeatling at automattic.com>
Subject: [buddypress-dev] Data Portability and Microformats
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One thing I haven't added to the BuddyPress site yet is how we are  
going to handle data portability.

This is a fairly hefty topic and I've heard a wide range of different  
ideas. I'm not completely set on an absolute direction for BuddyPress  
in this area yet. It is however something that is very important, and  
much needed in the social networking space.

These are my thoughts so far after having discussions with various  
people:

- Data needs to be as easy to get out as it is to put in.

- Sharing of data between BuddyPress installations should be as easy.  
You should be able to pull in data from one BuddyPress installation  
for use in other installations.

- There is no central information "hub" with BuddyPress. The DiSo  
project envisions using a basic WordPress installation as a place  
where you add your information to share with other networks. What if  
BuddyPress could utilize this, and pull in as much information from  
this source as possible when you first register? A BuddyPress  
installation could periodically check this source and ask if you  
wanted to import new information.

- The use of Microformats when rendering information so that it can be  
utilized by other non BuddyPress sources.

- The ability to completely export all of your data in 'X' format.

- The use of Gravatar to implement a shared profile picture library  
across all networks.

- The ability to finely tune privacy settings, and the creation of  
data access level groups. This would give you the ability to pick and  
choose the amount of data available to specific sites.

Lets discuss this area in more detail. I really want to hear people's  
thoughts and ideas on how we can make BuddyPress as distributed and  
open as possible.

Andy

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 16:38:04 -0700
From: Andy Peatling <andypeatling at automattic.com>
Subject: Re: [buddypress-dev] Hello
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On 2-Apr-08, at 12:07 PM, Andrea wrote:
> You and Andy are out West? I've got the East coast covered out in  
> New Brunswick. :D

Good old BC! I'm actually from the UK but have lived here for 4 years  
now.

Andy

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