<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Hi everyone. </div><div><br></div><div>#wordpress-ui chats. Since not too many people indicated time restrictions, I'm going to go ahead and set the official weekly chat time as 2pm Eastern time on Thursdays starting next week, which won't interfere with anyone participating in the WordPress Dev, BuddyPress or bbPress weekly IRC chats. I'm picking this time because if anything urgent comes up, I can roll it into the dev chat later that day for dev feedback. That's at irc.freenode.net #wordpress-ui. </div><div><br></div><div>P2. There will be a blog, but since far more coders than interaction designers responded to the introductions post here, I'm waiting to launch the site until people sign up for the first couple of wireframing projects so I'll know how many people are actually participating. I don't think forums in addition to a P2 would be useful right now, since threading will be important in following conversations. </div><div><br></div><div>Challenge #1: Right Now module on Dashboard. The Right Now module is pretty, but somewhat misleading. People get confused about which pieces of information relate to each other because of the lines and positioning. It evolved from the previous Right Now in 2.5, which was sentence style. The list format of the current Right Now is much better for translation, so we do not want to go back to sentence style. The first challenge is to reconfigure the information in the Right Now box (and/or re-evaluate what information belongs there) to be clearer, and wireframe a replacement design. Wireframes should be submitted by next Wednesday night so they can be discussed in Thursday's chat. Where/how to submit wireframes will be posted on Monday, as i need to work out some upload permissions first. Ideally people will work together and submit joint wireframes rather than everyone submitting their own. </div><div><br></div><div>Challenge #2: Better menu management. Right now the core development crew is working on a way to manage site menus from the admin. They started from existing plugins and widget code, and as a result, it could use some UI help. I don't want people to start from scratch and submit their dream model, because there's already work in progress. Just drop by the Trac ticket and provide UI feedback/suggestions. <a href="http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/11817#comment:63">http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/11817</a> No timeline here, this one will be ongoing until freeze.</div><div><br></div><div>Upcoming Challenges: We're starting out with small things on purpose, as has been discussed before. As this process becomes more solid, we'll move on to bigger UI things like the Plugins screen, the Comments screen, and the Settings area. People who prove to be collaborative and helpful will have opportunities to lead these mini-projects, so please be nice to everyone and try to work together rather than competing. </div><div><div><br></div><div>Thanks, </div><div>jane</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>A footnote:</div><div>We're trying to create ways for interaction designers, information architects and graphic designers to contribute to core, in more meaningful ways than an occasional design contest. It will take some time to iron out the best ways for it to work, as there are other things of high priority being worked on at the same time (3.0 merge, anyone?). Anyone who likes things to be already worked out perfectly should really unsubscribe and check in again in a couple of months after all the infrastructure is up, a few design challenges are out of the way, and we're settling into a productive routine. If you wouldn't go work for a startup, then you might want to hold off on the UI list. Also, there's been a lot of traffic on the list suddenly about why this isn't a forum, etc., but as I look at the posters, I'm seeing a lot of coders rather than people who make wireframes and comps, which is, if everyone would remember, the point of this list. If we wind up with the kind of griping that keeps popping up on wp-hackers, it won't be useful, so please keep posts to UX and design issues. Thanks. There will be a web site going up soon, but it's part of a slightly larger effort, so in the meantime this list is where communication about design challenges will happen officially, or in the #wordpress-ui channel, though IRC is better for real-time collaboration that ongoing brainstorming. </div><div><br></div></div></body></html>