[wp-trac] [WordPress Trac] #17671: Twenty Eleven: Quotes

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Mon Jun 6 04:10:44 UTC 2011


#17671: Twenty Eleven: Quotes
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 Reporter:  knutsp         |       Owner:
     Type:  defect (bug)   |      Status:  new
 Priority:  normal         |   Milestone:  3.2
Component:  Bundled Theme  |     Version:  3.2
 Severity:  minor          |  Resolution:
 Keywords:  has-patch      |
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Comment (by knutsp):

 Masayasu has a point, but then he should also recommend that unordered
 lists should not have bullets shown as default element indicator, since
 the author should have to control this. I guess there are different
 typical ways of presenting av list in different languages and cultures.

 BUT: An author should still expect <q> elements to be surrounded by some
 kind of quote character in a descent browser, if he doesn't bother
 specifying which characher he wuld prefer. As with lists and some kind of
 default list element symbol.

 I see no recommendations in HTML 5 for disallowing user agents to insert a
 quote character as part of a default style. XHTML 2.0 was discontinued,
 and HTML 5 is quite transitional and keeping backwards compatibility with
 HTML 4. From [http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage
 /text-level-semantics.html#the-q-element WHATWG]:

 {{{
 Quotation punctuation (such as quotation marks) that is quoting the
 contents of
 the element must not appear immediately before, after, or inside q
 elements;
 they will be inserted into the rendering by the user agent.
 }}}

 The Q element is not deprecated. But we, as authors, can't rely on this
 element always to be rendered properly in your language, or rendered at at
 all in some older browsers (as many other elements, CSS selectors and
 properties).

 I see no reason why WordPress, through the default theme, should try to
 enforce a disputable view like Masayasu's from 2004 (that the Q element
 MUST NOT have a default style).

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