[wp-trac] [WordPress Trac] #11394: Image shortcode

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#11394: Image shortcode
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 Reporter:  caesarsgrunt     |       Owner:                          
     Type:  feature request  |      Status:  new                     
 Priority:  normal           |   Milestone:  3.1                     
Component:  Media            |     Version:  2.9                     
 Severity:  normal           |    Keywords:  needs-patch dev-feedback
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Comment(by caesarsgrunt):

 Replying to [comment:37 Otto42]:
 > Ugh, absolutely not. Caption is separate from the image for a reason,
 and it should stay that way.

 Just to be clear : I wasn't suggesting that the caption and the image
 necessarily be merged, I was just answering sbressler's question by
 pointing out that (a) there are already duplicated attributes; this
 wouldn't be something new introduced by an image shortcode, and (b) the
 only way of avoiding duplicate attributes altogether is to merge the
 caption and image tags. I didn't suggest that this actually be done.

 > Look, the image is just the image. But the caption is the box
 surrounding the image. They are separate in style and display and
 everything else. The caption shortcode surrounds the image because that's
 the way it works on the page itself.

 Even if you merged the two shortcodes, the HTML output would be the same
 as it is currently.

 > If I was to simply delete all shortcodes, then I would still want my img
 html to be in there. Remember, post content is not confined to being
 displayed on the website. It's also in feeds, it can be seen in Google
 Reader, it could be pulled into other things... Shortcodes violate this
 principle of one-content-multiple-displays, but they tend to do so in a
 minor and manageable way. If we expand shortcodes to actually *being*
 content, then we change that dynamic.

 Is the content of the post, as in the database, shown straight in feeds
 without being parsed at all? If it's parsed anyway then being shown in
 feeds isn't different from being shown on the site - but I don't actually
 know whether it is or not. (Out of interest, if it's not, what happens
 about embedded videos, galleries, etc?)

 Why would you simply delete all shortcodes? Obviously, if you delete them,
 then what they represent won't be there anymore. Do you want your image
 tags to still be there if you delete all HTML too? If you remove all forms
 of formatting so you just have plain text? Where do you draw the
 line?[[BR]]
 Besides, there is already a [gallery] shortcode. If you delete it; the
 images it represents won't be shown anymore. Why's that OK, when a
 shortcode for individual images isn't?

 > I'm -1 to this ticket now, if we're talking about making the media
 handled by a shortcode. I want my content to be at least mostly free of
 being generated by the WordPress core code. I'd rather not have to process
 it through WordPress just to make it capable of being displayed elsewhere.

 Maybe we should have an option to disable the shortcode - enable it for
 normal users who are more concerned about ease of use and the enhanced
 feature set which it helps to enable, and allow advanced users who are
 more concerned about direct data portability without using an exporter to
 disable the shortcode. What do you think of that concept?

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