[wp-testers] wp-testers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 6

Bill Nickerson bill at wcnickerson.ca
Sun Oct 24 21:47:40 UTC 2010


If you were a real R&D tester then you'd understand the difference
between beta and release.  You're reporting an error in the release
version of the code to the beta tester's mailing list.  Why not submit a
trouble ticket in the appropriate place and turn down the name calling. 
WP is open source, so maybe you could fix it and submit the fix instead
of trashing all of those who are working to provide this code for us to
use at no cost.

On 24/10/2010 3:29 PM, Administrator wrote:
> You code junkies are always claiming this isn't for support.  You can
> call it anything you want  but you don't really use it for that.  You
> use these for supporting each others sloppy code and any little pet
> addition that meets your fancy.  Those who actually TEST the software
> and report problems and are ingnored.  Si I've got a really good
> idea.  Why don't you guys make a wp-developers mailing list.  Maybe
> those that picked up on the WordPress software will actually put
> together a group for REAL testing of your software.  I have been a
> real R&D tester with a 6 figure salary, so I know what I'm talking about.
>  Quickly about the Internal Server Error.  It most probably has to do
> with using fast graphics on a server.  Older version of Apache like
> 1.333 are still in use with major hosting sites.  Using fast graphics
> with this slopped together code from wordpress will quite often cause
> 500 errors by causing the server to time out on you.  Also you may
> want to read the install instructions regarding 3.01 if upgrading from
> as opposed to installing fresh.
> Hope that helps.  The rest of you idiots that are responsible for the
> code for the core editor have really screwed it up.  You put an
> automatic save in the software that is NOT configurable.  That
> shouldn't be uncontrollable because it interferes with other
> processes.  The proportional redisplay of media has been totally
> broken and been reported and ignored.  Fix that stuff why don't cha.
>
> ----  Original  Message ----- From: "Matthew Mascioni"
> <kingmattm at gmail.com>
> To: <wp-testers at lists.automattic.com>
> Cc: <wp-testers at lists.automattic.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 10:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [wp-testers] wp-testers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 6
>
>
>> 500 Internal Server error when installing WordPress 3.0.1 on my
>> server, suggest look into it.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Matthew Mascioni
>> Founder/CEO of App Inquirer
>> http://appinquirer.com
>>
>>
>> On 2010-10-23, at 8:00 AM, wp-testers-request at lists.automattic.com
>> wrote:
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>>>      (Mark Beihoffer)
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>>>      account (Rich Pedley)
>>>   4. Re: Custom post type capabilities not fully set up on
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 07:12:49 -0500
>>> From: Mark Beihoffer <mbeihoffer at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [wp-testers] wp-testers Digest, Vol 68, Issue 5
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>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:00 AM,
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>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>
>>>>  1. php and word press problems (Marvin Hunkin)
>>>>  2. Re: php and word press problems (John Blackbourn)
>>>>  3. Custom post type capabilities not fully set up on
>>>>     registration (Andrew Macaulay-Brook)
>>>>  4. Re: Custom post type capabilities not fully set up on
>>>>     registration (Andrew Nacin)
>>>>  5. Re: Custom post type capabilities not fully set up on
>>>>     registration (Andrew Macaulay-Brook)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 1
>>>> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 10:45:50 +1100
>>>> From: "Marvin Hunkin" <startrekcafe at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: [wp-testers] php and word press problems
>>>> To: <wp-testers at lists.automattic.com>
>>>> Message-ID: <2F2863D6F386428C92A68C12CFEA4592 at marvinPC>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>> ?hi.
>>>> the person who sent me the code to turn on php.
>>>> cold they resend the code to me and the process to get it to
>>>> work.as lost
>>>> it
>>>> .
>>>> thank you.
>>>> marvin from australia.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 04:19:09 +0100
>>>> From: John Blackbourn
>>>> <johnbillion+wp at gmail.com<johnbillion%2Bwp at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [wp-testers] php and word press problems
>>>> To: wp-testers at lists.automattic.com
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>       <AANLkTim3BrunjP91K_nUxKR-A1vsxO55FEaiaBpbas9M at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>
>>>> Marvin, the wp-hackers mailing list isn't for support; it's for
>>>> discussion on WordPress hacking and core development of the platform.
>>>>
>>>> The information you want is freely available on the web. Try Googling
>>>> for any phrase like "how to turn on php" and you'll get hundreds of
>>>> thousands of results.
>>>>
>>>> Also, if you're struggling with setting up PHP you might be better off
>>>> going with a cheap shared host. There are some recommendations here:
>>>> http://wordpress.org/hosting/ .
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Marvin Hunkin
>>>> <startrekcafe at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> ?hi.
>>>>> the person who sent me the code to turn on php.
>>>>> cold they resend the code to me and the process to get it to
>>>>> work.aslost it
>>>>> ?.
>>>>> thank you.
>>>>> marvin from australia.
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>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 3
>>>> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 12:08:46 +0100
>>>> From: Andrew Macaulay-Brook <am at theburo.net>
>>>> Subject: [wp-testers] Custom post type capabilities not fully set up
>>>>       on      registration
>>>> To: wp-testers at lists.automattic.com
>>>> Message-ID: <9EF30455-B202-40AE-9C19-8AC80DDF0DD5 at theburo.net>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=windows-1252
>>>>
>>>> I can't work out whether this is covered by
>>>> http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/14122 or not.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using a custom post type called property, assigning
>>>> capabilities using
>>>> 'capability_type' => 'property' and then giving my Editors
>>>> *_property and
>>>> *_propertys capabilities wherever I can see they already have
>>>> *_post or
>>>> *_posts.
>>>>
>>>> The rationale for all this is that it lets me turn off all the
>>>> capabilities
>>>> for blog Posts, hiding the Posts menu for Editors, as this site
>>>> doesn't use
>>>> the blog.  I then give my client an Editor level login.
>>>>
>>>> I'm mapping meta-capabilities using Justin Tadlock's code at
>>>> http://justintadlock.com/archives/2010/07/10/meta-capabilities-for-custom-post-types
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Problem: Neither my clients, nor the Admin login can Trash custom
>>>> posts.
>>>>
>>>> It seems that using the argument 'capability_type' => 'property'
>>>> only sets
>>>> up the following mappings in the post type object:
>>>>
>>>> <!-- Capability mapping: stdClass Object
>>>> (
>>>>   [edit_post] => edit_property
>>>>   [edit_posts] => edit_propertys
>>>>   [edit_others_posts] => edit_others_propertys
>>>>   [publish_posts] => publish_propertys
>>>>   [read_post] => read_property
>>>>   [read_private_posts] => read_private_propertys
>>>>   [delete_post] => delete_property
>>>> )
>>>> -->
>>>>
>>>> ... which I generated using $post_type = get_post_type_object(
>>>> $post->post_type ); print_r($post_type->cap);
>>>>
>>>> It looks like the mappings for $post_type->cap->delete_posts and
>>>> $post_type->cap->delete_others_posts aren't being set up.
>>>>
>>>> I've got an issue with taxonomy capabilities too, but that's my
>>>> next job.
>>>>
>>>> Andrew Macaulay-Brook, BEng MBCS CITP, trading as theburo.net
>>>> mailto:am at theburo.net ? http://www.theburo.net/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 4
>>>> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 07:29:13 -0400
>>>> From: Andrew Nacin <wp at andrewnacin.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [wp-testers] Custom post type capabilities not fully set
>>>>       up on   registration
>>>> To: wp-testers at lists.automattic.com
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>
>>>> <AANLkTincxXJuCdoK-Pw+vENv7pD_9wr4we-KXr42T7VE at mail.gmail.com<AANLkTincxXJuCdoK-Pw%2BvENv7pD_9wr4we-KXr42T7VE at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Andrew Macaulay-Brook <am at theburo.net
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can't work out whether this is covered by
>>>>> http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/14122 or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using a custom post type called property, assigning capabilities
>>>> using
>>>>> 'capability_type' => 'property' and then giving my Editors
>>>>> *_property and
>>>>> *_propertys capabilities wherever I can see they already have
>>>>> *_post or
>>>>> *_posts.
>>>>>
>>>>> The rationale for all this is that it lets me turn off all the
>>>> capabilities
>>>>> for blog Posts, hiding the Posts menu for Editors, as this site
>>>>> doesn't
>>>> use
>>>>> the blog.  I then give my client an Editor level login.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm mapping meta-capabilities using Justin Tadlock's code at
>>>>>
>>>> http://justintadlock.com/archives/2010/07/10/meta-capabilities-for-custom-post-types
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Problem: Neither my clients, nor the Admin login can Trash custom
>>>>> posts.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems that using the argument 'capability_type' => 'property' only
>>>> sets
>>>>> up the following mappings in the post type object:
>>>>>
>>>>> <!-- Capability mapping: stdClass Object
>>>>> (
>>>>>   [edit_post] => edit_property
>>>>>   [edit_posts] => edit_propertys
>>>>>   [edit_others_posts] => edit_others_propertys
>>>>>   [publish_posts] => publish_propertys
>>>>>   [read_post] => read_property
>>>>>   [read_private_posts] => read_private_propertys
>>>>>   [delete_post] => delete_property
>>>>> )
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>> ... which I generated using $post_type = get_post_type_object(
>>>>> $post->post_type ); print_r($post_type->cap);
>>>>>
>>>>> It looks like the mappings for $post_type->cap->delete_posts and
>>>>> $post_type->cap->delete_others_posts aren't being set up.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is indeed the same ticket at issue.
>>>>
>>>> If you read Justin's post again, you'll see that he deliberately
>>>> sets up
>>>> those additional capabilities by overloading what gets passed to the
>>>> capabilities array.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't yet got around to committing my meta capabilities patch
>>>> for 3.1
>>>> yet, basically because after a few attempts I don't think I've
>>>> quite nailed
>>>> it yet.
>>>>
>>>> But what you'll see is when map_meta_cap is true (a new flag for
>>>> register_post_type), then these additional capabilities will need
>>>> to be set
>>>> up, or WordPress will do it for you, based on capability_type.
>>>>
>>>> Hope that makes sense.
>>>>
>>>> Nacin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Message: 5
>>>> Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 12:44:49 +0100
>>>> From: Andrew Macaulay-Brook <am at theburo.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [wp-testers] Custom post type capabilities not fully set
>>>>       up on   registration
>>>> To: wp-testers at lists.automattic.com
>>>> Message-ID: <E6B61DE2-70AC-4FC7-AA3A-319F8A7E11D3 at theburo.net>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;       charset=windows-1252
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Andrew - depends on how literally you read Justin's post I
>>>> guess. I
>>>> read "I?ve also added in a couple of extra capabilities that were
>>>> not shown
>>>> in my previous tutorial on post types: delete_posts and
>>>> delete_others_posts." and didn't mentally add "because WordPress
>>>> doesn't do
>>>> it."  :-)
>>>>
>>>> I'll use the overloading instead of being lazy and look out for the
>>>> patch -
>>>> is it looking definite for 3.1?
>>>>
>>>> A.
>>>>
>>>> On 21 Oct 2010, at 12:29, Andrew Nacin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Andrew Macaulay-Brook
>>>>> <am at theburo.net
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't work out whether this is covered by
>>>>>> http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/14122 or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm using a custom post type called property, assigning capabilities
>>>> using
>>>>>> 'capability_type' => 'property' and then giving my Editors
>>>>>> *_property
>>>> and
>>>>>> *_propertys capabilities wherever I can see they already have
>>>>>> *_post or
>>>>>> *_posts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The rationale for all this is that it lets me turn off all the
>>>> capabilities
>>>>>> for blog Posts, hiding the Posts menu for Editors, as this site
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>> use
>>>>>> the blog.  I then give my client an Editor level login.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm mapping meta-capabilities using Justin Tadlock's code at
>>>>>>
>>>> http://justintadlock.com/archives/2010/07/10/meta-capabilities-for-custom-post-types
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Problem: Neither my clients, nor the Admin login can Trash custom
>>>>>> posts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems that using the argument 'capability_type' => 'property'
>>>>>> only
>>>> sets
>>>>>> up the following mappings in the post type object:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <!-- Capability mapping: stdClass Object
>>>>>> (
>>>>>>  [edit_post] => edit_property
>>>>>>  [edit_posts] => edit_propertys
>>>>>>  [edit_others_posts] => edit_others_propertys
>>>>>>  [publish_posts] => publish_propertys
>>>>>>  [read_post] => read_property
>>>>>>  [read_private_posts] => read_private_propertys
>>>>>>  [delete_post] => delete_property
>>>>>> )
>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... which I generated using $post_type = get_post_type_object(
>>>>>> $post->post_type ); print_r($post_type->cap);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It looks like the mappings for $post_type->cap->delete_posts and
>>>>>> $post_type->cap->delete_others_posts aren't being set up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is indeed the same ticket at issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you read Justin's post again, you'll see that he deliberately
>>>>> sets up
>>>>> those additional capabilities by overloading what gets passed to the
>>>>> capabilities array.
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't yet got around to committing my meta capabilities patch
>>>>> for 3.1
>>>>> yet, basically because after a few attempts I don't think I've quite
>>>> nailed
>>>>> it yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> But what you'll see is when map_meta_cap is true (a new flag for
>>>>> register_post_type), then these additional capabilities will need
>>>>> to be
>>>> set
>>>>> up, or WordPress will do it for you, based on capability_type.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that makes sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nacin
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> wp-testers mailing list
>>>>> wp-testers at lists.automattic.com
>>>>> http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-testers
>>>>
>>>> Andrew Macaulay-Brook, BEng MBCS CITP, trading as theburo.net
>>>> mailto:am at theburo.net ? http://www.theburo.net/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:19:55 +0100
>>> From: Rich Pedley <elfin at elfden.co.uk>
>>> Subject: Re: [wp-testers] Mark Beihoffer has invited you to open a
>>>    Google mail    account
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>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:50:21 -0400
>>> From: Andrew Nacin <wp at andrewnacin.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [wp-testers] Custom post type capabilities not fully set
>>>    up on    registration
>>> To: wp-testers at lists.automattic.com
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>>> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Andrew Macaulay-Brook
>>> <am at theburo.net>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Andrew - depends on how literally you read Justin's post I
>>>> guess. I
>>>> read "I?ve also added in a couple of extra capabilities that were
>>>> not shown
>>>> in my previous tutorial on post types: delete_posts and
>>>> delete_others_posts." and didn't mentally add "because WordPress
>>>> doesn't do
>>>> it."  :-)
>>>>
>>>> I'll use the overloading instead of being lazy and look out for the
>>>> patch -
>>>> is it looking definite for 3.1?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes. This conversation got me looking at things again. Here's the
>>> ticket:
>>> http://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/14122. The first pass was
>>> committed
>>> yesterday, so you'll see this in 3.1. Please test it if you can to
>>> find any
>>> bugs or limitations.
>>>
>>>
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