[wp-testers] Forum questions on testers lists ??

[Paleo Pat]

The only thing that I can add to this is, I've used those forums before and
I have encountered some dudes with some real stinking attitudes. Especially
in the area where you "Strut your stuff". I mean, if some of the jerks in
there said the stuff to my face, that they said in those forums, they'd be
sucking their meals through a fucking straw, when I got done with 'em.

Just sayin'

-Paleo Pat
http://www.politicalbyline.com




On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:00 PM, Paul Robinson <pablorobinson at gmail.com>wrote:

> I agree completely with you. The flame wars are immature & should be
> deleted
> on sight. The search is rubbish, the forum should probably use something
> like VBulletin & although people might get sick of the same question being
> asked it is extremely immature on the part of anyone who answers to start
> attacking the asker. Just leave the post empty if you don't want to point
> the person in the right direction. That's what I do.
>
> I Also agree with Mattias, the forums are said to be the major point of
> support for WP & as such stupid questions or questions that have already
> been asked get asked again, this is partly due to the poor search, but
> theres no need to insult the person.
>
> Anyway this is my last email on this subject because I think we've gone
> extremely off topic. Oh and Otto I don't think you should get premium
> support for free software, but I have seen better support forums for free,
> for example the Ubuntu forums. That's not a dig at WP just a hint that
> maybe
> things could be done to make the wp.org forums a little better.
>
> 2008/12/23 mrmist <listswptesters at mist.org.uk>
>
> > In message <161617690812230806r5c03532ctd6e0dc84aa6ca8bc at mail.gmail.com
> >,
> > Otto <otto at ottodestruct.com> writes
> >
> >> Unfortunately, the questions asked on the wp.org forums are, 7 out of
> >> 10 times, the first result in a really obvious Google search. People
> >> simply don't search for their answers. They just don't even try.
> >>
> >> Also, the search function on the forums really sucks (a problem with
> >> searching wp.org in general), so people can't search the forums
> >> easily. Google gets better results.
> >>
> >>
> > Yep. Whilst I'm running fairly OT for this list, the main issues with the
> > forum are its poor (internal) search and the shear volume of posts
> combined
> > with a relatively immature boards UI (compared to say vbulletin or
> similar).
> >
> > The poor  search means that the same questions get asked over and over
> [1]
> >
> > The volume of posts means that people asking questions can get poor
> quality
> > or no responses.
> >
> > The UI just means that the forum is not quite as accessible as it should
> > be.  For example, I find it really odd not having the "latest post"
> details
> > on the front (forum index) page.
> >
> > Plus then of course you get the odd flame-war, but that's inevitable on
> the
> > internet. (Though in some cases it's fuelled by the above.)
> >
> > Then you've got the whole thing where there's an expectation amongst the
> > wider community that people (core devs normally) should be there to
> answer
> > their really important question RIGHT NOW.[2]  That's a whole other
> story,
> > and probably wouldn't be solved by a mailing list, as it's primarily an
> > attitude issue.
> >
> > [1] And the same questions being asked over and over leads to abrupt
> > responses which hit nerves with some posters.
> >
> > [2] And if they don't, then WordPress is rubbish, etc.
> > --
> > mrmist
> >
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