[wp-testers] Default theme

[Andy Staines]

Speaking personally, I cut my CSS teeth using Kubrick and it wasn't  
an easy experience. Yes, it's quite attractive and distinctive but  
it's use of images is totally confusing to a beginner and reading the  
support forums they are filled with people wanting to change column  
widths etc., not understanding how to - and getting frustrated. OK -  
so most of these migrate to another theme but many, many want to  
master the CSS and just give up. A simplified version - with fluid  
columns, and comments in the CSS to help beginners understand how it  
all works would be a boon. Just about everybody wants to make some  
changes to whatever theme they are using and it would help if the  
default were logical and understandable, and Kubrick doesn't fill  
that need.
ANDY STAINES
email | andy at yellowswordfish.com
www  | www.yellowswordfish.com

On 08:01  AM |  Mon 12 Jun 06, at 08:01  AM |  12 Jun 06, Sean  
Hayford O'Leary wrote:

> (I was referring to the code, not the appearance in cleanliness.)
> Again, I have no objection to Kubrick being shipped with WP, but it
> simply should not be default: whether its code is cleaned up or not,
> it's still designed to do more than "default" really needs to do.
>
> Keeping it as "default" basically adds bulk to WP's core and is
> harmful to those who want to develop with it. Including as an extra
> but non-essential theme benefits those who want an easy install and
> makes it easy for theme developers.
>
> -Sean Hayford-O'Leary
>
> On 6/11/06, Andy Skelton <skeltoac at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 6/11/06, Sean Hayford O'Leary <sdho at sdho.org> wrote:
>> > Classic's cleaner than Kubrick, but it still leaves some to be
>> > desired.
>>
>> Kubrick has something no other theme has. Kubrick is good for
>> WordPress the way Angelina Jolie's face is good for Angelina Jolie.
>> (Sorry. I had http://botd.wordpress.com/ on my mind.) You may not  
>> like
>> the way it looks, but it's distinctive and enough people like it.
>>
>> Point being: I value the sort of brand recognition that we get from
>> Heilemann's handy design work. I don't think the look of Kubrick is
>> sacred. Maybe it's precious.
>>
>> I don't suggest that the original Kubrick code should never be
>> overhauled or even tweaked. Rather, it's the target of enough
>> complaints that I'm surprised it's not patched already. Is anybody
>> interested in doing that? Has it been done satisfactorily?
>>
>> Andy
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