[wp-testers] "Categories"

Colin Frame cframe at gmail.com
Wed Nov 23 07:42:24 GMT 2005


To put tags and categories into 'real world' terms I tend to think of  
a big pile of clothes that you want to sort out.

You get a few boxes that you can put each item into but youve also  
got a whole bunch of stickies that you can stick on the item to  
describe it a bit better.

Now if you want to find something and you know what box it went into  
you can go straight to that box whereas if you're not sure you can  
start looking through the stickies that has the descriptive info  
until you find what matches.

Another thing about 'faking' tags as categories and ending up with a  
very large amount of them is that in desktop publishing apps you  
could end up with a right mess of categories to choose from without  
much chance of 'limiting' the amount that are displayed.

I think the option of choosing tags, cats or both in the prefs pages  
would be the best of both worlds, if you want to use any combination  
of some, none or both then its up to you. Defaulting to the standard  
choice of cats only would make the switch easier for less experienced  
users but those who know can make the choice without having to use  
any external plugins.

my 2c (or 2p in the uk!)

c.

On 23 Nov 2005, at 06:53, Sean Hayford O'Leary wrote:

> Hmm... I'm tempted to say "have an option to turn it on and off", but
> I know I'd get another five e-mails about messying up WP. :-p
>
> So are you also saying that categories should be opened up in that you
> would not be required to classify a post under a given category?
>
> On 11/23/05, Nickolas Means <nmeans at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree with your argument that native code is more stable through
>> upgrades than plugins.  At the same time, why introduce a second
>> function just like one already present.  If tags were to be
>> introduced as part of the WP core code, then categories would need to
>> be locked down.  Mandatory one-and-only-one category per post (as
>> Matt mentioned, like Sections in Textpattern).  If categories were
>> not locked down, you would essentially have the same function twice-
>> over with very minimal differences in functionality.
>>
>> Changing the functionality in this way (one cat. per post) would
>> break most of the WordPress blogs currently in existence.  Most, if
>> not all of us, have at least one post in multiple categories.  I
>> personally don't want to go through my blog and move all that over to
>> a tagging function when what I've got works well and there's a plugin
>> out there that doesn't break anything to do what you want to do.
>>
>> If you want to discipline yourself into using only one category per
>> post, then by all means do so, but it's not something that should be
>> forced upon the entire userbase.  And without forcing it on the
>> entire userbase, all you've done is implement redundant  
>> functionality.
>>
>> Nick
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