[wp-testers] "Categories"

[Stuart]

On 11/23/05, Abhay Kumar <aranis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > How would you set up the naviagation of your site? Would you list 100
> > tags for visitors to choose from? What if you had 500 tags?
>
> If the main navigation of your blog (sidebar) is based on tags rather than
> categories, you are basically deviating from the core idea of simplicity.
> Categories are what one would consider a primary hierarchy and tags are far
> too specific.
>
> > I suppose you could select 5 or 6 of your most important tags (news,
> > tech, personal, etc.), and then hardcode links to them in your
> > sidebar, but this is messy.
>
> Why not just make those 5-6 into categories?

That's my point - it is being suggested that Wordpress should have
either categories or tags - not both. I'm suggesting a scenario where
tags and categories should exist together.

>
> > With all the tags, I could create a page with a tag cloud, or perhaps
> > include a mini tag cloud in the sidebar. Using the tags would be an
> > additional method of navigating and discovering posts in my blog.
>
> A tag cloud is a great idea if you want to show all of the subtopics that
> you
>
> > > > Having just 'tagories' (nice word btw!) would make a Wordpress site
> > > > difficult to navigate and difficult to structure in any meaningful
> > > > way. (in my opinion)
> > >
> > > My thinking is quite the opposite of this.  It would get confusing
> > > for readers in the long run if a site had both tags and categories.
> > > If someone really wants to see all your reviews then they can click
> > > on your "Reviews" tag and they'll all come up.  If they want movie
> > > reviews, then click on "Movies" in a list of common tags that pops up
> > > in your reviews archive section.  Or, properly implemented,
> > > your.url.com/tags/reviews+movies.
>
> I still don't see the problem with having reviews as a level 0 category and
> movies as a level 1 category. There is a clear hierarchy in your example.
> Perhaps you have a different example where this is not the case. I do,
> however, see the utility of multiple categories in permalinks.

The example I gave somewhere in this string of emails is as follows:
Category: Movie Reviews (or: Reviews -> Movies)
Blog entry: Harry Potter
Tags: harry potter, movies, films, fantasy, wizards, magic

I think that's the perfect example of how both work together.

>
> An example would be category 0 having 300 entries and category 1 having 500
> entries. If 100 of the entries are common to both categories, a permalink
> structure with an 'AND' would be useful to find those 100. This would be
> useful only if category 1 was not a subcategory of category 0.
>
> > > In my opinion, tags empower the user whereas categories limit the
> > > user.  Thoughts?
>
> Definiately disagree. I feel both have their usefulness and they are
> exclusive of each other.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Abhay
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