[wp-testers] "Categories"

Stuart amanzimtoti at gmail.com
Tue Nov 22 21:06:27 GMT 2005


I've followed several, similar discussions on the Mozilla Firefox
forums about what features should be part of the core and which should
be extensions (equivalent to Wordpress plugins) and at the end of the
day it's really just up to personal opinion and popularity of a
feature.

One of the mantras of Wordpress (similar to Firefox) is to keep it as
light and as fast as possible, so whether a new feature makes it into
the core code or not is really up to the developers based on their
feedback.

I haven't tried using Tag Warrior but then again I don't really like
using plugins that much - I prefer my Wordpress installation to be as
clean as possible. I use Spam Karma for comment antispam (I've always
thought this should be part of the core), WPG2 for the Gallery2
functionality (I think this is perfect as a plugin - definitely not
part of the core), and WP-contactform (I also think that this is a
good example of a plugin.) One of the problems with plugins is that it
gives me more complexity to my Wordpress blog and gives me more things
to update. For example - I recently bore the brunt of having thousands
of spams sent from my contact form, I didn't realise I was two
versions out of date. I personally think that the WYSIWYG editor
should be an optional plugin, but that's just my opinion.

As for the tags, it is a fact that tags are becoming more and more
prominent on the web today and people are enjoying using them. It only
takes a couple of lines to describe the difference between categories
and tags so I don't think it will be a big deal to explain this to new
users. So my justification for categories and tags is that it will be
hugely beneficial to all Wordpress users around the world! :)

A user that doesn't want to use the tags can just use categories, or,
a user that has a speciality blog may choose to put all posts into one
category and seperate everything with tags. The tags can also be used
to ping Technorati so your post shows up in the relevant tags
searches. Even a novice a will very quickly get to grips with tags and
will soon start to like them.

The more I think about it, the more I think that categories AND tags
should be part of the Wordpress core.

Cheers - Stuart.





On 11/23/05, Nickolas Means <nmeans at gmail.com> wrote:
> Stuart-
>
> What would justify adding a separate tagging function into the core
> code of WP, though?  If Ultimate Tag Warrior does this very
> competently, and by all reports it does, then what's the
> justification for adding it into core code other than "Web 2.0ness"?
> If you want tags and cats, fine, install the plugin.  For novice
> users, the distinction between categories and tags may be difficult
> to comprehend, and the default system works pretty well for an either/
> or implementation.
>
> I have a feeling that most of the users wanting to use the dual-
> functionality will fall into the "Advanced" user camp, and for them,
> the plugin's the way to go.  IMHO, we don't want to confuse new users
> (new bloggers) by having both as a feature of WP unless it's
> extremely clearly delineated.
>
> I must say that your argument for tags and categories is well-
> presented.  Makes it much clearer to me why people would want to go
> with dual-functionality.  I still think it's best left as a plugin
> function, though, and not part of the core.
>
> Nick
> http://nmeans.org/
>
>
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