[wp-testers] "Categories"

Santanu Misra santanu.misra at gmail.com
Tue Nov 22 14:33:26 GMT 2005


Sorry Sean,

I think that will be mistake to  mix categories with tags.
They both should be part of the core but should not  compliment each other.

-Regards
Santanu

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On 11/22/05, Sean Hayford O'Leary <hayfordoleary at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, I always used to do one file per folder (hate extensions in addresses)
> ;).
>
> The general consensus seems that categories should remain more-or-less as is
> and tags should be added, though seperate from categories.
>
> And I agree that both could exist happily together. And that a system of
> both would be ideal. Still, I stand by my point: look at Flickr's sets and
> tags: each image can only exist in one set. Because of the free-form nature
> of categories, they are closer to tags.
>
> -Sean Hayford O'Leary
>
> On 11/22/05, Gregory Wild-Smith <greg at twilightuniverse.com> wrote:
> > Only one HTML file per folder? Hardly.
> >
> > It's a grouping system. You group posts by category. Tags allow you
> > finer control over that that doesn't require sub-categories (you can
> > have the same tag across totally different categories).
> >
> > Tags also were intended as a kind of meta information.
> >
> > If people mis-apply categories or tags, that doesn't mean the system is
> > broken. They aren't mutually exclusive either, they can complement each
> > other perfectly.
> >
> > I agree WP is making it easier to mis-apply them though. The comparison
> > to Flickr makes sense if you include their sets - the sets are like
> > categories. It is just that Flickr uses tags as a primary navigation,
> > and sets as a second. WP is the other way around. That makes more sense
> > for publishing, where you'll have a broad area you are writing about but
> > other smaller details that still warrant some kind of mention.
> >
> > "I feel that, especially with "tag" becoming a more widely
> > used term, WP's admin ui should refer to categories as tags."
> >
> > That would be a complete an utter mis-labeling. They are two separate
> > things.
> >
> > -- Gregory Wild-Smith
> >
> >
> > Sean Hayford O'Leary wrote:
> > > I've been toying with this thought since 1.2, but it seems all the
> > > more relevant with 1.6/2.0.
> > >
> > > Categories aren't really categories anymore. Here's the thought: Each
> > > item fits into ONE category, just as an HTML file might fit into ONE
> > > folder (taxonomy).
> > > But in WP (especially with on-the-fly category additions), it's really
> > > more like tags (folksonomy).
> > >
> > > Look at Flickr's tags and look at the traditional directory/file
> > > taxonomy structure. In my opinion WP's categories far better resemble
> > > tags than taxonomy.
> > >
> > > Basic point: I feel that, especially with "tag" becoming a more widely
> > > used term, WP's admin ui should refer to categories as tags.
> > >
> > > What do you guys think?
> > >
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