[wp-pro] Re: wp-pro Digest, Vol 36, Issue 16

Adam Warner awarner20 at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 17 12:35:09 GMT 2008


Stephen,

What you're asking for in your project is worth much more than you're proposing, in both time and cash. Many, if not most, of the professional WordPress developers on this list make their living from freelance and short-term contract work. As you might imagine, "a few hundred dollars", combined with the amount of work you're asking for, is frustrating.



 
Adam W. Warner
http://indielab.org
http://wordpressmodder.org
 
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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: need ] Need to hire wordpress web developer and marketing
      (T?a Brennan)
   2. Re: need ] Need to hire wordpress web developer and marketing
      (Stephen Singer)
   3. Re: need ] Need to hire wordpress web developer and marketing
      (Michael Martine)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 10:16:44 +0800
From: T?a Brennan <tea at linkartist.com.au>
Subject: Re: [wp-pro] need ] Need to hire wordpress web developer and
    marketing
To: Stephen Singer <stephenms at earthlink.net>
Cc: wp-pro at lists.automattic.com, lawrence at krubner.com
Message-ID: <B1C989F0-73AA-47AB-BA2A-DD0F6A142D3A at linkartist.com.au>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Actually, wp-pro is for legitimate, paid Wordpress work by  
professionals.

It's not Craig's List, where you can expect to get web design for  
bargain basement prices by a kid in his Mum's basement.

From the info page: "A list for professional consultants providing  
WordPress services."

If you're looking to throw "a few hundred bucks if this works" -- that  
is insulting to every professional on this list.

I too am tiring of this.

--
Téa Brennan
www.linkartist.com.au


On 17/06/2008, at 10:04 AM, Stephen Singer wrote:

> Dear Lawrence,
>
> This is the Internet not some agency for Web Developers or some  
> exclusive club. If  you are not interested you don't need to respond
>
>
> Stephen
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Krubner" <lkrubner at geocities.com 
> >
> To: "Stephen Singer" <stephenms at earthlink.net>
> Cc: <wp-pro at lists.automattic.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [wp-pro] need ] Need to hire wordpress web developer  
> and marketing
>
>
>> Stephen Singer wrote:
>>> Please check out my website www.kikachannel.com
>>> this is a free online concert video of famous artists like Chaka  
>>> Khan, Four Tops, Tanya Tucker The idea here is to make money with  
>>> advertising etc Already have the player etc and a website going
>> What I need is to list each artist and to be able to link t
>> >his to another page where there will be info on the artist
>> >plus you play the full length concert and bios, photos etc I will  
>> link
>> Amazon, Ebay on this page to sell
>> >products and other companies. I am working with www.Brightcove.com I
>> am uploading
>> >these full length concerts in high quality to see full concerts  
>> which
>> are about a hour long.  I
>> >need some who has a background in video marketing, website developer
>> and word press and the
>> >ability to market this on the WEB. Willing to give a few hundred
>> dollars for the project and some back end
>> >money if this works and starts making money. I realize this is not a
>> much of a budget but honestly this
>> >is quite speculative. The great thing is I have tons of videos of
>> these legendary acts.
>>> Please contact me via e-mail or (818) 991-9347
>>> Stephen Singer
>>
>>
>> What is going on with the WP-Pro list? We've had an epidemic lately  
>> of people asking for free or nearly free help. Can we get some  
>> moderation on this list? It would nice to limit this list to  
>> requests from clients who are serious.
>>
>>
>> -- lawrence krubner
>>
>>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:28:19 -0700
From: "Stephen Singer" <stephenms at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [wp-pro] need ] Need to hire wordpress web developer and
    marketing
To: T?a Brennan <tea at linkartist.com.au>
Cc: wp-pro at lists.automattic.com, lawrence at krubner.com
Message-ID: <034601c8d021$ceb648d0$6401a8c0 at DJF8RP31>
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Tea

I am sorry you feel this but as a professional you don't need to use this as a forum. We are all are entitled to use this service seeking professionals and if this insulting I am sorry there are plenty other ways to get work. I am not asking you to work for free. Like I said if you were looking for a free service to get work then you should allow this kind of freedom instead of complaining. People who advertise for jobs usually pay for such services or simply pay marketing people.  As an artist I do things not for much money and at times I am quite happy the work is there. 


Stephen
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Téa Brennan 
  To: Stephen Singer 
  Cc: lawrence at krubner.com ; wp-pro at lists.automattic.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [wp-pro] need ] Need to hire wordpress web developer and marketing


  Actually, wp-pro is for legitimate, paid Wordpress work by professionals.


  It's not Craig's List, where you can expect to get web design for bargain basement prices by a kid in his Mum's basement.


  From the info page: "A list for professional consultants providing WordPress services."


  If you're looking to throw "a few hundred bucks if this works" -- that is insulting to every professional on this list. 


  I too am tiring of this.


  --
  Téa Brennan
  www.linkartist.com.au




  On 17/06/2008, at 10:04 AM, Stephen Singer wrote:


    Dear Lawrence,

    This is the Internet not some agency for Web Developers or some exclusive club. If  you are not interested you don't need to respond


    Stephen


    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Krubner" <lkrubner at geocities.com>
    To: "Stephen Singer" <stephenms at earthlink.net>
    Cc: <wp-pro at lists.automattic.com>
    Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:01 PM
    Subject: Re: [wp-pro] need ] Need to hire wordpress web developer and marketing



      Stephen Singer wrote:

        Please check out my website www.kikachannel.com

        this is a free online concert video of famous artists like Chaka Khan, Four Tops, Tanya Tucker The idea here is to make money with advertising etc Already have the player etc and a website going

      What I need is to list each artist and to be able to link t

      >his to another page where there will be info on the artist

      >plus you play the full length concert and bios, photos etc I will link

      Amazon, Ebay on this page to sell

      >products and other companies. I am working with www.Brightcove.com I

      am uploading

      >these full length concerts in high quality to see full concerts which

      are about a hour long.  I

      >need some who has a background in video marketing, website developer

      and word press and the

      >ability to market this on the WEB. Willing to give a few hundred

      dollars for the project and some back end

      >money if this works and starts making money. I realize this is not a

      much of a budget but honestly this

      >is quite speculative. The great thing is I have tons of videos of

      these legendary acts.

        Please contact me via e-mail or (818) 991-9347

        Stephen Singer





      What is going on with the WP-Pro list? We've had an epidemic lately of people asking for free or nearly free help. Can we get some moderation on this list? It would nice to limit this list to requests from clients who are serious.





      -- lawrence krubner






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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:38:58 -0400
From: "Michael Martine" <michaelmartine at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [wp-pro] need ] Need to hire wordpress web developer and
    marketing
To: "Stephen Singer" <stephenms at earthlink.net>
Cc: lawrence at krubner.com, wp-pro at lists.automattic.com
Message-ID:
    <7b43fb740806161938n5280e29cr6132b5cd32c7c183 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

If an offer is too low I just ignore it. If somebody wants to work for that
little money, they are welcome to go for it. No big deal.

On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Stephen Singer <stephenms at earthlink.net>
wrote:

>  Tea
>
> I am sorry you feel this but as a professional you don't need to use this
> as a forum. We are all are entitled to use this service seeking
> professionals and if this insulting I am sorry there are plenty other ways
> to get work. I am not asking you to work for free. Like I said if you were
> looking for a free service to get work then you should allow this kind of
> freedom instead of complaining. People who advertise for jobs usually pay
> for such services or simply pay marketing people.  As an artist I do things
> not for much money and at times I am quite happy the work is there.
>
>
> Stephen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Téa Brennan <tea at linkartist.com.au>
> *To:* Stephen Singer <stephenms at earthlink.net>
> *Cc:* lawrence at krubner.com ; wp-pro at lists.automattic.com
> *Sent:* Monday, June 16, 2008 7:16 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [wp-pro] need ] Need to hire wordpress web developer and
> marketing
>
> Actually, wp-pro is for legitimate, paid Wordpress work by professionals.
> It's not Craig's List, where you can expect to get web design for bargain
> basement prices by a kid in his Mum's basement.
>
> From the info page: "A list for professional consultants providing
> WordPress services."
>
> If you're looking to throw "a few hundred bucks if this works" -- that is
> insulting to every professional on this list.
>
> I too am tiring of this.
>
> --
> Téa Brennan
> www.linkartist.com.au
>
>
>  On 17/06/2008, at 10:04 AM, Stephen Singer wrote:
>
> Dear Lawrence,
>
> This is the Internet not some agency for Web Developers or some exclusive
> club. If  you are not interested you don't need to respond
>
>
> Stephen
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lawrence Krubner" <
> lkrubner at geocities.com>
> To: "Stephen Singer" <stephenms at earthlink.net>
> Cc: <wp-pro at lists.automattic.com>
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [wp-pro] need ] Need to hire wordpress web developer and
> marketing
>
>
> Stephen Singer wrote:
>
>  Please check out my website www.kikachannel.com
>
>  this is a free online concert video of famous artists like Chaka Khan,
> Four Tops, Tanya Tucker The idea here is to make money with advertising etc
> Already have the player etc and a website going
>
> What I need is to list each artist and to be able to link t
>
> >his to another page where there will be info on the artist
>
> >plus you play the full length concert and bios, photos etc I will link
>
> Amazon, Ebay on this page to sell
>
> >products and other companies. I am working with www.Brightcove.com I
>
> am uploading
>
> >these full length concerts in high quality to see full concerts which
>
> are about a hour long.  I
>
> >need some who has a background in video marketing, website developer
>
> and word press and the
>
> >ability to market this on the WEB. Willing to give a few hundred
>
> dollars for the project and some back end
>
> >money if this works and starts making money. I realize this is not a
>
> much of a budget but honestly this
>
> >is quite speculative. The great thing is I have tons of videos of
>
> these legendary acts.
>
>  Please contact me via e-mail or (818) 991-9347
>
>  Stephen Singer
>
>
>
> What is going on with the WP-Pro list? We've had an epidemic lately of
> people asking for free or nearly free help. Can we get some moderation on
> this list? It would nice to limit this list to requests from clients who are
> serious.
>
>
>
> -- lawrence krubner
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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