From kimmo+key+wordpress.c4f53f at suominen.com Sun Mar 11 16:18:35 2007 From: kimmo+key+wordpress.c4f53f at suominen.com (Kimmo Suominen) Date: Sun Mar 11 16:18:45 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] Theme translation Message-ID: <20070311161835.GF23672@kimmo.suominen.com> Hi! It looks like the gettexted theme in the I18N repository is not up-to-date. Is anyone planning on updating it to 2.1.x? http://svn.automattic.com/wordpress-i18n/theme/trunk/ It would be easier to translate a gettexted theme, and any themes using the same nomenclature would get a "free" translation as a side product. Best regards, + Kimmo (trying to get through the whitspace changes from 2.0.9 to 2.1.2) -- Kimmo Suominen From nbachiyski at developer.bg Sun Mar 11 16:45:26 2007 From: nbachiyski at developer.bg (Nikolay Bachiyski) Date: Sun Mar 11 16:45:33 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] Theme translation In-Reply-To: <20070311161835.GF23672@kimmo.suominen.com> References: <20070311161835.GF23672@kimmo.suominen.com> Message-ID: <56f01e000703110945j75f26489g94044bc8ea32aeca@mail.gmail.com> 2007/3/11, Kimmo Suominen : > Hi! > > It looks like the gettexted theme in the I18N repository is not up-to-date. > Is anyone planning on updating it to 2.1.x? I myself have tried before, but couldn't keep the theme really up-to-date. I used to just i18n it from scratch every time I hoped to just update the differences, which had accumulated by the time I had updated it the previous time. Again, I think we should to persuade the others that default theme should be i18ned. Anyway, if somebody wants to touch the string by himself, he usually won't be using the default one. Actually there aren't many blogger, who are using it. On the other hand the default theme should be friendly enough especially for those, who are not technically proficient. We can also keep only an gettext-full version and then, if needed, to generate a fixed-strings one. Happy translating, Nikolay. > > http://svn.automattic.com/wordpress-i18n/theme/trunk/ > > It would be easier to translate a gettexted theme, and any themes using > the same nomenclature would get a "free" translation as a side product. > > Best regards, > + Kimmo (trying to get through the whitspace changes from 2.0.9 to 2.1.2) > -- > Kimmo Suominen > From mchlsync at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 12:22:35 2007 From: mchlsync at gmail.com (Michael Sync) Date: Mon Mar 12 12:22:48 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] My language is not in the list Message-ID: <3e2d9a660703120522n182caa5r3a6b9ec734977818@mail.gmail.com> Hello, The language that I would like to translate is not the list. How can I add my language (Burmese) to languages list?? Thanks. Regards, Michael Sync -- Don't go the way life takes you. Take life the way you go http://michaelsync.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-polyglots/attachments/20070312/8b4e3674/attachment.htm From abelcheung at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 21:07:04 2007 From: abelcheung at gmail.com (Abel Cheung) Date: Mon Mar 12 21:07:14 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] My language is not in the list In-Reply-To: <3e2d9a660703120522n182caa5r3a6b9ec734977818@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e2d9a660703120522n182caa5r3a6b9ec734977818@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/12/07, Michael Sync wrote: > The language that I would like to translate is not the list. > How can I add my language (Burmese) to languages list?? I also have the same question. Is anybody responsible for committing translation back into subversion, or translators shall try to ask for commit access to wordpress-i18n? Sometimes I saw translation posted here, but then ignored. It is really a waste of effort. Abel > Thanks. > > Regards, > Michael Sync > > -- > Don't go the way life takes you. > Take life the way you go > > http://michaelsync.net > _______________________________________________ > wp-polyglots mailing list > wp-polyglots@lists.automattic.com > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-polyglots > > -- Abel Cheung (GPG Key: 0xC67186FF) Key fingerprint: 671C C7AE EFB5 110C D6D1 41EE 4152 E1F1 C671 86FF -------------------------------------------------------------------- * GNOME Hong Kong - http://www.gnome.hk/ * Opensource Application Knowledge Assoc. - http://oaka.org/ * My own cave: http://me.abelcheung.org/ From drssay97 at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 23:37:50 2007 From: drssay97 at gmail.com (Seok-moon Jang) Date: Mon Mar 12 23:38:04 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] My language is not in the list In-Reply-To: References: <3e2d9a660703120522n182caa5r3a6b9ec734977818@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2496f6b50703121637o31b0c3e6w278085762fc78384@mail.gmail.com> SVN Repository master is Ryan Boren. This is Register Form. ------------------------------------------------ Wordpress.org forum username : Your language(2 letter) : Your Country(2 capital letter) : ------------------------------------------------ for example, France language : fr country : FR Repository path is "http://svn.automattic.com/wordpress-i18n/fr_FR" please, send this form to this maillinglist. From lang.support at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 01:09:22 2007 From: lang.support at gmail.com (Andrew Cunningham) Date: Tue Mar 13 01:09:27 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] My language is not in the list In-Reply-To: <2496f6b50703121637o31b0c3e6w278085762fc78384@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e2d9a660703120522n182caa5r3a6b9ec734977818@mail.gmail.com> <2496f6b50703121637o31b0c3e6w278085762fc78384@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9d70cb000703121809v315116f1oaed92d9926052d93@mail.gmail.com> On 13/03/07, Seok-moon Jang wrote: > This is Register Form. > ------------------------------------------------ > Wordpress.org forum username : > Your language(2 letter) : > Your Country(2 capital letter) : > ------------------------------------------------ and what happens if there is no two letter code for your language? -- Andrew Cunningham Language IT support Dinka Language Institute Australia http://home.vicnet.net.au/~andrewc/ http://home.vicnet.net.au/~agamlong/dlia/ http://www.openroad.net.au/languages/african/dinka/ From mchlsync at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 03:39:03 2007 From: mchlsync at gmail.com (Michael Sync) Date: Tue Mar 13 03:39:10 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] My language is not in the list In-Reply-To: <9d70cb000703121809v315116f1oaed92d9926052d93@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e2d9a660703120522n182caa5r3a6b9ec734977818@mail.gmail.com> <2496f6b50703121637o31b0c3e6w278085762fc78384@mail.gmail.com> <9d70cb000703121809v315116f1oaed92d9926052d93@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3e2d9a660703122039l4d00f95dg2add7b4c91062de4@mail.gmail.com> Thanks. Wordpress.org forum username : mchlsync According to this doc, the following information is for my language. All English Names : Burmese All French Names : Burmese ISO 639-2 : bur/mya ISO 639-1 : my But I'm not very sure what will be two letters for my language (Burmese/Myanmar) and my country (Myanmar). It would be great if anyone can give me a link for reference. Regards, Michael Sync On 3/13/07, Andrew Cunningham wrote: > > On 13/03/07, Seok-moon Jang wrote: > > > This is Register Form. > > ------------------------------------------------ > > Wordpress.org forum username : > > Your language(2 letter) : > > Your Country(2 capital letter) : > > ------------------------------------------------ > > and what happens if there is no two letter code for your language? > > -- > Andrew Cunningham > Language IT support > Dinka Language Institute > Australia > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~andrewc/ > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~agamlong/dlia/ > http://www.openroad.net.au/languages/african/dinka/ > _______________________________________________ > wp-polyglots mailing list > wp-polyglots@lists.automattic.com > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-polyglots > -- Don't go the way life takes you. Take life the way you go http://michaelsync.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-polyglots/attachments/20070313/b2c8684a/attachment.htm From lang.support at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 03:53:40 2007 From: lang.support at gmail.com (Andrew Cunningham) Date: Tue Mar 13 03:53:45 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] My language is not in the list In-Reply-To: <3e2d9a660703122039l4d00f95dg2add7b4c91062de4@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e2d9a660703120522n182caa5r3a6b9ec734977818@mail.gmail.com> <2496f6b50703121637o31b0c3e6w278085762fc78384@mail.gmail.com> <9d70cb000703121809v315116f1oaed92d9926052d93@mail.gmail.com> <3e2d9a660703122039l4d00f95dg2add7b4c91062de4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9d70cb000703122053h650e8b49jb1312c5dec1a1df@mail.gmail.com> Michael, Language code for Burmese: my Country code for Myanmar Union: MM -- Andrew Cunningham Language IT support Dinka Language Institute Australia http://home.vicnet.net.au/~andrewc/ http://home.vicnet.net.au/~agamlong/dlia/ http://www.openroad.net.au/languages/african/dinka/ From mchlsync at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 08:39:38 2007 From: mchlsync at gmail.com (Michael Sync) Date: Tue Mar 13 08:39:45 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] My language is not in the list In-Reply-To: <9d70cb000703122053h650e8b49jb1312c5dec1a1df@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e2d9a660703120522n182caa5r3a6b9ec734977818@mail.gmail.com> <2496f6b50703121637o31b0c3e6w278085762fc78384@mail.gmail.com> <9d70cb000703121809v315116f1oaed92d9926052d93@mail.gmail.com> <3e2d9a660703122039l4d00f95dg2add7b4c91062de4@mail.gmail.com> <9d70cb000703122053h650e8b49jb1312c5dec1a1df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3e2d9a660703130139y2bede13bx7e655d06c3a89213@mail.gmail.com> Thanks a lot. Andrew. Here is my Register Form. ------------------------------------------------ Wordpress.org forum username : mchlsync Your language(2 letter) : mm Your Country(2 capital letter) : MY ------------------------------------------------ Please create a repository for me. http://svn.automattic.com/wordpress-i18n/mm-my Thanks, Michael Sync -- Don't go the way life takes you. Take life the way you go http://michaelsync.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-polyglots/attachments/20070313/3ee713c3/attachment-0001.htm From wp-polyglots at futourist.hu Tue Mar 13 09:33:51 2007 From: wp-polyglots at futourist.hu (=?utf-8?Q?Tam=C3=A1s_Mak=C3=B3?=) Date: Tue Mar 13 09:33:57 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] Theme translation Message-ID: <1801567200.20070313103351@futourist.hu> Hi, >> It looks like the gettexted theme in the I18N repository is not up-to-date. >> Is anyone planning on updating it to 2.1.x? It's the classic, not the default theme, isn't it? > Again, I think we should to persuade the others that default theme > should be i18ned. I've never managed to understand the philosophy behind the "no-gettexted-default-theme", but it doesn't matter :-) I made an i18n-ed version from the deafult Kubrick theme. It's almost up-to-date if I remember well it's based on 2.1. There is no plural forms support for instance. (Nowadays I have no time to play with it.) But it's working with 2.1.2. At least I think so :-) If somebody would like to use it, drop me a line and I'll send it. regards, Tom -- Tam?s Mak? http://futourist.hu/tom/ From abelcheung at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 19:11:58 2007 From: abelcheung at gmail.com (Abel Cheung) Date: Tue Mar 13 19:12:12 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] My language is not in the list In-Reply-To: <9d70cb000703121809v315116f1oaed92d9926052d93@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e2d9a660703120522n182caa5r3a6b9ec734977818@mail.gmail.com> <2496f6b50703121637o31b0c3e6w278085762fc78384@mail.gmail.com> <9d70cb000703121809v315116f1oaed92d9926052d93@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/13/07, Andrew Cunningham wrote: > > and what happens if there is no two letter code for your language? I suppose it would be using ISO639-2 three letter code instead? Abel > > -- > Andrew Cunningham > Language IT support > Dinka Language Institute > Australia > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~andrewc/ > http://home.vicnet.net.au/~agamlong/dlia/ > http://www.openroad.net.au/languages/african/dinka/ > _______________________________________________ > wp-polyglots mailing list > wp-polyglots@lists.automattic.com > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-polyglots > -- Abel Cheung (GPG Key: 0xC67186FF) Key fingerprint: 671C C7AE EFB5 110C D6D1 41EE 4152 E1F1 C671 86FF -------------------------------------------------------------------- * GNOME Hong Kong - http://www.gnome.hk/ * Opensource Application Knowledge Assoc. - http://oaka.org/ * My own cave: http://me.abelcheung.org/ From abelcheung at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 19:14:56 2007 From: abelcheung at gmail.com (Abel Cheung) Date: Tue Mar 13 19:15:06 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] My language is not in the list In-Reply-To: <2496f6b50703121637o31b0c3e6w278085762fc78384@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e2d9a660703120522n182caa5r3a6b9ec734977818@mail.gmail.com> <2496f6b50703121637o31b0c3e6w278085762fc78384@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: And my registration form for traditional Chinese (Hong Kong) here: ------------------------------------------------ Wordpress.org forum username : abelcheung Language code: zh Country/District code: HK ------------------------------------------------ Thanks for handling! Abel -- Abel Cheung (GPG Key: 0xC67186FF) Key fingerprint: 671C C7AE EFB5 110C D6D1 41EE 4152 E1F1 C671 86FF -------------------------------------------------------------------- * GNOME Hong Kong - http://www.gnome.hk/ * Opensource Application Knowledge Assoc. - http://oaka.org/ * My own cave: http://me.abelcheung.org/ From tai at tekapo.com Sun Mar 18 05:24:41 2007 From: tai at tekapo.com (tai) Date: Sun Mar 18 05:24:46 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] Theme translation In-Reply-To: <56f01e000703110945j75f26489g94044bc8ea32aeca@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070311161835.GF23672@kimmo.suominen.com> <56f01e000703110945j75f26489g94044bc8ea32aeca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <171aba370703172224k6dfc9586vc5fed013ae5259f9@mail.gmail.com> > Again, I think we should to persuade the others that default theme > should be i18ned. Agreed. If they don't agree with it, why don't we keep them up-to-date on the i18n repository by ourselves? Tom, I'd like to try it, so could you send it to me? Thanks in advance. Tai From duquebilly at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 14:55:25 2007 From: duquebilly at gmail.com (Anderson Clayton) Date: Sun Mar 18 14:55:38 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] Hello, World! Message-ID: <1c2846330703180755k48b3770fm784be3e29e2f1eb2@mail.gmail.com> Hi, guys. I`m Anderson, from Brazil, and i would like to know if theres somebody here translating anything about wordpress to portuguese. I`m available to help in everything that i could. hugs from Rio, (*lol) Anderson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-polyglots/attachments/20070318/fe04c3b3/attachment.htm From moshu at transycan.net Sun Mar 18 15:06:03 2007 From: moshu at transycan.net (Moshu) Date: Sun Mar 18 15:06:10 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] Hello, World! In-Reply-To: <1c2846330703180755k48b3770fm784be3e29e2f1eb2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0JF300L1TTY36Q10@l-daemon> http://codex.wordpress.org/WordPress_in_Your_Language#Portuguese Look around at those links... moshu _____ From: wp-polyglots-bounces@lists.automattic.com [mailto:wp-polyglots-bounces@lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Anderson Clayton Sent: March 18, 2007 8:55 AM To: wp-polyglots@lists.automattic.com Subject: [wp-polyglots] Hello, World! Hi, guys. I`m Anderson, from Brazil, and i would like to know if theres somebody here translating anything about wordpress to portuguese. I`m available to help in everything that i could. hugs from Rio, (*lol) Anderson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-polyglots/attachments/20070318/a7c6be00/attachment.htm From xsewarx at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 10:56:44 2007 From: xsewarx at gmail.com (Sewar) Date: Mon Mar 19 10:56:50 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] Theme translation In-Reply-To: <447861896.20070319110604@futourist.hu> References: <20070311161835.GF23672@kimmo.suominen.com> <56f01e000703110945j75f26489g94044bc8ea32aeca@mail.gmail.com> <171aba370703172224k6dfc9586vc5fed013ae5259f9@mail.gmail.com> <447861896.20070319110604@futourist.hu> Message-ID: Thanks, i will create a patch based on this theme soon to the ticket. On 3/19/07, Tam?s Mak? wrote: > Hello Tai and Sewar, > > > Tai said: > > I'd like to try it, so could you send it to me? > > > Sewar said: > > I have created a ticket in WP Trac for updating default theme > > (including L10N support): > > http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/3953 > > I hope you send me the gettexted version of default theme so i can > > create a patch and submit it to WP Trac. > > > These are the default theme's files. I made the po and mo > file from these by poedit. I hope you can use it. > I used 'default.i18n' for textdomain which maybe wasn't the > right choice, but I hadn't time to change it so I left it... > > regards, > Tom > > -- > Tam?s Mak? > http://futourist.hu/tom/ > From nbachiyski at developer.bg Mon Mar 19 11:47:36 2007 From: nbachiyski at developer.bg (Nikolay Bachiyski) Date: Mon Mar 19 11:47:43 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] Theme translation In-Reply-To: References: <20070311161835.GF23672@kimmo.suominen.com> <56f01e000703110945j75f26489g94044bc8ea32aeca@mail.gmail.com> <171aba370703172224k6dfc9586vc5fed013ae5259f9@mail.gmail.com> <447861896.20070319110604@futourist.hu> Message-ID: <56f01e000703190447g41074e5eqf2610c751efd2d44@mail.gmail.com> 2007/3/19, Sewar : > Thanks, i will create a patch based on this theme soon to the ticket. It will be great if somebody has the power, will and time to regularly update the i18n version of the default theme. Thank you! Happy i18n-ing, Nikolay. > > On 3/19/07, Tam?s Mak? wrote: > > Hello Tai and Sewar, > > > > > Tai said: > > > I'd like to try it, so could you send it to me? > > > > > Sewar said: > > > I have created a ticket in WP Trac for updating default theme > > > (including L10N support): > > > http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/3953 > > > I hope you send me the gettexted version of default theme so i can > > > create a patch and submit it to WP Trac. > > > > > > These are the default theme's files. I made the po and mo > > file from these by poedit. I hope you can use it. > > I used 'default.i18n' for textdomain which maybe wasn't the > > right choice, but I hadn't time to change it so I left it... > > > > regards, > > Tom > > > > -- > > Tam?s Mak? > > http://futourist.hu/tom/ From ran at trans.co.il Mon Mar 19 14:48:00 2007 From: ran at trans.co.il (Ran Yaniv Hartstein) Date: Mon Mar 19 14:48:09 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] Theme translation In-Reply-To: <56f01e000703190447g41074e5eqf2610c751efd2d44@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070311161835.GF23672@kimmo.suominen.com> <56f01e000703110945j75f26489g94044bc8ea32aeca@mail.gmail.com> <171aba370703172224k6dfc9586vc5fed013ae5259f9@mail.gmail.com> <447861896.20070319110604@futourist.hu> <56f01e000703190447g41074e5eqf2610c751efd2d44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Perhaps this was already discussed elsewhere, but why isn't the default theme included with wordpress i18ned? On 3/19/07, Nikolay Bachiyski wrote: > > 2007/3/19, Sewar : > > Thanks, i will create a patch based on this theme soon to the ticket. > > It will be great if somebody has the power, will and time to regularly > update the i18n version of the default theme. > > Thank you! > > Happy i18n-ing, > Nikolay. > > > > > On 3/19/07, Tam?s Mak? wrote: > > > Hello Tai and Sewar, > > > > > > > Tai said: > > > > I'd like to try it, so could you send it to me? > > > > > > > Sewar said: > > > > I have created a ticket in WP Trac for updating default theme > > > > (including L10N support): > > > > http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/3953 > > > > I hope you send me the gettexted version of default theme so i can > > > > create a patch and submit it to WP Trac. > > > > > > > > > These are the default theme's files. I made the po and mo > > > file from these by poedit. I hope you can use it. > > > I used 'default.i18n' for textdomain which maybe wasn't the > > > right choice, but I hadn't time to change it so I left it... > > > > > > regards, > > > Tom > > > > > > -- > > > Tam?s Mak? > > > http://futourist.hu/tom/ > > _______________________________________________ > wp-polyglots mailing list > wp-polyglots@lists.automattic.com > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-polyglots > > -- --RYH, www.trans.co.il -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-polyglots/attachments/20070319/c539748a/attachment.htm From michel at klijmij.net Mon Mar 19 15:14:55 2007 From: michel at klijmij.net (Michel Klijmij) Date: Mon Mar 19 15:15:08 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] Theme translation In-Reply-To: References: <20070311161835.GF23672@kimmo.suominen.com> <56f01e000703110945j75f26489g94044bc8ea32aeca@mail.gmail.com> <171aba370703172224k6dfc9586vc5fed013ae5259f9@mail.gmail.com> <447861896.20070319110604@futourist.hu> <56f01e000703190447g41074e5eqf2610c751efd2d44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1174317295.9042.11.camel@hex.michelenastrid.klijmij.net> Op maandag 19-03-2007 om 16:48 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Ran Yaniv Hartstein: > Perhaps this was already discussed elsewhere, but why isn't the > default theme included with wordpress i18ned? I believe the reason given was that it's easier for people to edit without all the i18n stuff. It's a major annoyance, because people download the translation and then come back asking why only the admin part is translated. The least that could be done is provide both a gettexted and non-gettexted version. -- Kind regards, Michel Klijmij From xavier at borderie.net Mon Mar 19 16:48:45 2007 From: xavier at borderie.net (Xavier Borderie) Date: Mon Mar 19 16:48:57 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] Theme translation In-Reply-To: <1174317295.9042.11.camel@hex.michelenastrid.klijmij.net> References: <20070311161835.GF23672@kimmo.suominen.com> <56f01e000703110945j75f26489g94044bc8ea32aeca@mail.gmail.com> <171aba370703172224k6dfc9586vc5fed013ae5259f9@mail.gmail.com> <447861896.20070319110604@futourist.hu> <56f01e000703190447g41074e5eqf2610c751efd2d44@mail.gmail.com> <1174317295.9042.11.camel@hex.michelenastrid.klijmij.net> Message-ID: <9e4ae73e0703190948l4d14fcfidd69ade4a6e19f9c@mail.gmail.com> > It's a major annoyance, because people download the translation and then > come back asking why only the admin part is translated. The least that > could be done is provide both a gettexted and non-gettexted version. What's more, because the translation is hardcoded, we have to comb through any new version of the theme in order to see which file needs to be redone. This wouldn't be a problem if the theme didn't evolve, but it's a fact. It's cumbersome enough to have to hardcode the translation for some files at every version... -- Xavier Borderie From rcn at shevy.dk Mon Mar 19 17:01:13 2007 From: rcn at shevy.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Clausen_Nielsen?=) Date: Mon Mar 19 17:04:33 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] Theme translation In-Reply-To: <9e4ae73e0703190948l4d14fcfidd69ade4a6e19f9c@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070311161835.GF23672@kimmo.suominen.com> <56f01e000703110945j75f26489g94044bc8ea32aeca@mail.gmail.com> <171aba370703172224k6dfc9586vc5fed013ae5259f9@mail.gmail.com> <447861896.20070319110604@futourist.hu> <56f01e000703190447g41074e5eqf2610c751efd2d44@mail.gmail.com> <1174317295.9042.11.camel@hex.michelenastrid.klijmij.net> <9e4ae73e0703190948l4d14fcfidd69ade4a6e19f9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 2007/3/19, Xavier Borderie : > > What's more, because the translation is hardcoded, we have to comb > through any new version of the theme in order to see which file needs > to be redone. This wouldn't be a problem if the theme didn't evolve, > but it's a fact. It's cumbersome enough to have to hardcode the > translation for some files at every version... > I second that. Furthermore, I do believe that most people who would alter the theme would understand enough English to get by regardless of the gettext functions. Should some l10n team (particularly non western, I guess) think that they'd have to hardcode the translation, I'm certain they would be able to wipe out the gettext strings just as easy as simply translating the bits we have already translated. Actually, it would probably be a lot easier to pinpoint the strings in need of translation if they are marked by __e's etc. I say, leave it to the translation team to decide whether their users would be able to insert new functions in a gettexted theme or not. /Ren? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-polyglots/attachments/20070319/3a4e2359/attachment.htm From abelcheung at gmail.com Mon Mar 19 20:57:51 2007 From: abelcheung at gmail.com (Abel Cheung) Date: Mon Mar 19 20:57:56 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] Theme translation In-Reply-To: References: <20070311161835.GF23672@kimmo.suominen.com> <56f01e000703110945j75f26489g94044bc8ea32aeca@mail.gmail.com> <171aba370703172224k6dfc9586vc5fed013ae5259f9@mail.gmail.com> <447861896.20070319110604@futourist.hu> <56f01e000703190447g41074e5eqf2610c751efd2d44@mail.gmail.com> <1174317295.9042.11.camel@hex.michelenastrid.klijmij.net> <9e4ae73e0703190948l4d14fcfidd69ade4a6e19f9c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/20/07, Ren? Clausen Nielsen wrote: > gettext functions. Should some l10n team (particularly non western, I guess) > think that they'd have to hardcode the translation, I'm certain they would No, that's the last thing people want, even for non-western languages. It's only when english are marked incorrectly that non-english people start to wipe it out and hardcode their own translation. I mean hypothetical situation like: This kind of chopping makes most non-english translation impossible. Avoid this and people would be more than happy. Abel > be able to wipe out the gettext strings just as easy as simply translating > the bits we have already translated. Actually, it would probably be a lot > easier to pinpoint the strings in need of translation if they are marked by > __e's etc. > > I say, leave it to the translation team to decide whether their users would > be able to insert new functions in a gettexted theme or not. > > /Ren? > _______________________________________________ > wp-polyglots mailing list > wp-polyglots@lists.automattic.com > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-polyglots > > -- Abel Cheung (GPG Key: 0xC67186FF) Key fingerprint: 671C C7AE EFB5 110C D6D1 41EE 4152 E1F1 C671 86FF -------------------------------------------------------------------- * GNOME Hong Kong - http://www.gnome.hk/ * Opensource Application Knowledge Assoc. - http://oaka.org/ * My own cave: http://me.abelcheung.org/ From zeljko.filipin at gmail.com Wed Mar 21 21:32:42 2007 From: zeljko.filipin at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=BDeljko_Filipin?=) Date: Wed Mar 21 21:32:56 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] My language is not in the list In-Reply-To: References: <3e2d9a660703120522n182caa5r3a6b9ec734977818@mail.gmail.com> <2496f6b50703121637o31b0c3e6w278085762fc78384@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi, Could you add folder for Croatian translation ( http://svn.automattic.com/wordpress-i18n/hr_HR)? ------------------------------------------------ Wordpress.org forum username: zeljkofilipin Language (2 letter): hr Country (2 capital letter): HR ------------------------------------------------ Thanks, ?eljko Filipin -- ZeljkoFilipin.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-polyglots/attachments/20070321/77ed67d6/attachment.htm From mikea at turbonet.com Wed Mar 21 22:12:51 2007 From: mikea at turbonet.com (Michael D Adams) Date: Wed Mar 21 22:17:20 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] bbPress translations In-Reply-To: <20070227113514.GG3011@kimmo.suominen.com> References: <9C0243D3-D4DD-4FAC-B01A-A3CA556BD055@turbonet.com> <20070227113514.GG3011@kimmo.suominen.com> Message-ID: On Feb 27, 2007, at 3:35 AM, Kimmo Suominen wrote: > I haven't looked at bbPress recently, but last time I asked about > having > a separate translation for bbPress, Matt's response was to concatenate > the two. I.e. bbPress would not use a separate domain for its > messages. > > The problem for Finnish is that the word "Post" translates to > "article" > in the blog context, while in a forum it would need to be called a > "message". > > Not using separate text domains for the two contexts made me abandon > bbPress. > > Has this changed, or is the intention still to share translations > between WordPress and bbPress? It hasn't change, but I'm in favor of not concatenating things for just that reason. Explicitly specifying a 'bbpress' domain for every string in bbPress in really obnoxious. I have been waiting for someone to figure out some clever code that will make things work via magic. Sorry I took so long to respond; this list got lost somewhere for me. Michael From ryan at boren.nu Wed Mar 21 22:30:16 2007 From: ryan at boren.nu (Ryan Boren) Date: Wed Mar 21 22:30:22 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] My language is not in the list In-Reply-To: <3e2d9a660703130139y2bede13bx7e655d06c3a89213@mail.gmail.com> References: <3e2d9a660703120522n182caa5r3a6b9ec734977818@mail.gmail.com> <2496f6b50703121637o31b0c3e6w278085762fc78384@mail.gmail.com> <9d70cb000703121809v315116f1oaed92d9926052d93@mail.gmail.com> <3e2d9a660703122039l4d00f95dg2add7b4c91062de4@mail.gmail.com> <9d70cb000703122053h650e8b49jb1312c5dec1a1df@mail.gmail.com> <3e2d9a660703130139y2bede13bx7e655d06c3a89213@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/13/07, Michael Sync wrote: > Thanks a lot. Andrew. > > Here is my Register Form. > ------------------------------------------------ > Wordpress.org forum username : mchlsync > Your language(2 letter) : mm > Your Country(2 capital letter) : MY > ------------------------------------------------ > > Please create a repository for me. > http://svn.automattic.com/wordpress-i18n/mm-my http://svn.automattic.com/wordpress-i18n/mm_MY/ Done. From ryan at boren.nu Wed Mar 21 22:30:38 2007 From: ryan at boren.nu (Ryan Boren) Date: Wed Mar 21 22:30:47 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] My language is not in the list In-Reply-To: References: <3e2d9a660703120522n182caa5r3a6b9ec734977818@mail.gmail.com> <2496f6b50703121637o31b0c3e6w278085762fc78384@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/21/07, ?eljko Filipin wrote: > Hi, > > Could you add folder for Croatian translation > (http://svn.automattic.com/wordpress-i18n/hr_HR)? > > ------------------------------------------------ > Wordpress.org forum username: zeljkofilipin > Language (2 letter): hr > Country (2 capital letter): HR > ------------------------------------------------ Done. From rich.pav at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 12:30:38 2007 From: rich.pav at gmail.com (Richard Pavonarius) Date: Wed Mar 28 12:30:43 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] Part way to translating, need just a wee push. Message-ID: <8f4c86c40703280530o595a7e97ua4e523592b44aa4c@mail.gmail.com> Here's what I've managed to do so far. * Tried to google for the answer to my question. * Installed the Language Switcher plugin * Created the languages directory in wp-includes, uploaded ja.mo and ja.po * Got the plug-in working, I can switch between Japanese and English, but the theme (Abstrakt3c 2.0) needs to be localized. That's where I'm stuck. * Installed poEdit on windows. * Put wordpress.pot, ja.mo, ja.po in a folder, opened wordpress.pot in PoEdit. I can see what has already been translated into Japanese. Obviously it doesn't include anything from the theme. Next, I think I have to create a .pot file for the theme or add the theme's files to wordpress.pot. A tutorial on what to do next, written with a big, red crayon would be most helpful. Bonus question: Is Language Switcher the best way to go? I like that it seems rather generic and doesn't have the compatiblity problems Gengo appears to have with other plugins. Thanks, Rich From chombium at gmail.com Wed Mar 28 13:39:48 2007 From: chombium at gmail.com (Jovan Kostovski) Date: Wed Mar 28 13:40:02 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] Part way to translating, need just a wee push. In-Reply-To: <8f4c86c40703280530o595a7e97ua4e523592b44aa4c@mail.gmail.com> References: <8f4c86c40703280530o595a7e97ua4e523592b44aa4c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Richard, On 3/28/07, Richard Pavonarius wrote: > * Put wordpress.pot, ja.mo, ja.po in a folder, opened wordpress.pot in > PoEdit. I can see what has already been translated into Japanese. > Obviously it doesn't include anything from the theme. Theme translation is not about the wp.po files. Everything from theme that should be localized should go through the WP translation macro if the translation strings are a part of passed variables toa function function_name(__("SOME_STRING")) You need a gettexted theme. If you like abstrakt3c that much download another theme and check the code for the things I've mentioned > Bonus question: Is Language Switcher the best way to go? I like that > it seems rather generic and doesn't have the compatiblity problems > Gengo appears to have with other plugins. Try Polyglot http://fredfred.net/skriker/index.php/polyglot I've tried it, it works good. Most of the people say that is the best way to make your blog multilingual. Cheers, Jovan From abelcheung at gmail.com Sat Mar 31 22:27:50 2007 From: abelcheung at gmail.com (Abel Cheung) Date: Sat Mar 31 22:27:59 2007 Subject: [wp-polyglots] Theme translation In-Reply-To: <56f01e000703190447g41074e5eqf2610c751efd2d44@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070311161835.GF23672@kimmo.suominen.com> <56f01e000703110945j75f26489g94044bc8ea32aeca@mail.gmail.com> <171aba370703172224k6dfc9586vc5fed013ae5259f9@mail.gmail.com> <447861896.20070319110604@futourist.hu> <56f01e000703190447g41074e5eqf2610c751efd2d44@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3/19/07, Nikolay Bachiyski wrote: > 2007/3/19, Sewar : > > Thanks, i will create a patch based on this theme soon to the ticket. > > It will be great if somebody has the power, will and time to regularly > update the i18n version of the default theme. I'd have thought the same, until reading more from wp-hacker [1]. Wordpress people will work hard to block this effort from entering official repository[2]. Abel [1] http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-hackers/2007-March/011446.html [2] http://comox.textdrive.com/pipermail/wp-hackers/2007-March/011430.html > > Thank you! > > Happy i18n-ing, > Nikolay. > > > > > On 3/19/07, Tam?s Mak? wrote: > > > Hello Tai and Sewar, > > > > > > > Tai said: > > > > I'd like to try it, so could you send it to me? > > > > > > > Sewar said: > > > > I have created a ticket in WP Trac for updating default theme > > > > (including L10N support): > > > > http://trac.wordpress.org/ticket/3953 > > > > I hope you send me the gettexted version of default theme so i can > > > > create a patch and submit it to WP Trac. > > > > > > > > > These are the default theme's files. I made the po and mo > > > file from these by poedit. I hope you can use it. > > > I used 'default.i18n' for textdomain which maybe wasn't the > > > right choice, but I hadn't time to change it so I left it... > > > > > > regards, > > > Tom > > > > > > -- > > > Tam?s Mak? > > > http://futourist.hu/tom/ > > _______________________________________________ > wp-polyglots mailing list > wp-polyglots@lists.automattic.com > http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-polyglots > > -- Abel Cheung (GPG Key: 0xC67186FF) Key fingerprint: 671C C7AE EFB5 110C D6D1 41EE 4152 E1F1 C671 86FF -------------------------------------------------------------------- * GNOME Hong Kong - http://www.gnome.hk/ * Opensource Application Knowledge Assoc. - http://oaka.org/ * My own cave: http://me.abelcheung.org/