[wp-hackers] Post style buttons
elharo at metalab.unc.edu
Sun Feb 25 12:53:07 GMT 2007
Robert Deaton wrote:
> Familiarity. Let's not go confuse the living crap out of the users who
> don't know that "strong" and "em" are apparently (but not really)
> synonyms for bold and italicize.
Actually, I think strong and emphasis (or perhaps emphasize) would be
fine names. em is a little unclear to someone who is a not a code-level
HTML hacker. However there's no reason we have to use the same name on
the button as in the code. We already use link instead of a.
> People are familiar with this method
> of textformatting from everywhere on their computers, from simple word
> processors to Microsoft Word to their mail clients to picking their
> font in any old application. The buttons as they are have meaning,
> let's not make them senseless to anyone who doesn't know their HTML
The problem is the meaning they have is wrong. They say they insert bold
and italic but instead they insert strong and em. :-(
> When I click those buttons, I have no intention of marking up my
> language as having emphasis.
Yet that is exactly what you do when you press those buttons. :-(
> If I was mentioning the title of a book,
> play, film, or other items, and wanted that to be italicized (or
> underlined, depending on preference), I don't want any sort of
> "emphasis" on the text, I just want it to be formatted differently.
This is why I proposed the span button. So we could easily add things
like <span class='wordasword'>. For a play or film, perhaps there should
be a cite button, though that may not be used frequently enough to
> If people want to markup their language and not their text, I think
> the buttons need to be separate. They are two separate tasks and they
> should not be jammed together into one button.
Elliotte Rusty Harold elharo at metalab.unc.edu
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