[wp-hackers] UTW and WordPress

[Matt]

I'm assuming there's some hooks for the Tagging System in Trunk right now,
so, why can't we just leave it the way it is, and if someone wants more
features, just make a Plugin for it, or make UTW into a Plugin that adds
Features to the Core Tagging System?

On 4/15/07, Jeremy Clarke <jer at simianuprising.com> wrote:
>
> UTW also has a richer query system than even the normal WP categories
> does.
> You can have unions (only posts in both categories) whereas WP only lets
> you
> have all posts from multiple categories. Any chance we could get some of
> that action integrated? I actually use UTW as a way of getting complex
> queries to work without even using any of the tagging features (the copy
> categories to tags tool works pretty well)
>
> also, S2C should just be in the system, that's not even really worth
> debating IMHO,  it's a life-changer.
>
> jer
>
> p.s. hello. I'm new to the list, I dev for
> http://globalvoicesonline.orgwhich runs wp with hundreds of categories
> (one for every country).
>
>
>
> On 4/15/07, Computer Guru <computerguru at neosmart.net> wrote:
> >
> > I disagree, I think it's very easy to separate the two:
> >
> > Tags, Synonyms, Renaming Tags, Deleting Tags, Linking Tags to
> Technorati,
> > Tag Archive Pages == Features
> >
> > Changing the way tags look, dynamic adding and removing of tags,
> allowing
> > end-users to tag pages, allowing end-users to change tags, ajax tagging
> > system, in-post tagging == Unnecessary
> >
> > All IMHO, but I'm just going by what I've seen in the blogging world.
> > Aaron, you manage the systems for a blogging network - wouldn't you
> agree
> > that features and bloat can be separated rather easily?
> >
> > I wrote an article on "standardized" tagging a while back, and I the
> > comments there (mostly Slashdot users, blog engine developers, and Web
> 2.0
> > startups based on tagging) pretty much sum-up what tagging is all about
> -
> > and address some of the difficulties in concept though the code would be
> > almost impossible to develop:
> > http://neosmart.net/blog/2007/the-need-for-creating-tag-standards/
> >
> >
> > Computer Guru
> > NeoSmart Technologies
> > http://neosmart.net/blog/
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: wp-hackers-bounces at lists.automattic.com [mailto:wp-hackers-
> > > bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Aaron Brazell
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 8:26 PM
> > > To: wp-hackers at lists.automattic.com
> > > Subject: Re: [wp-hackers] UTW and WordPress
> > >
> > > I'll meet the rest of you in the middle and say that I like the idea
> > > of using the schema. At that point, UTW is so feature rich to almost
> > > be the antithesis of what WordPress is (and I am proud to have used
> > > 'antithesis' in a sentence!). So if we want to build from the schema,
> > > I'd be on board for that. But it will be hard, after that, to
> > > separate feature from bloat and still maintain UTW's... well
> > > UTWishness.
> > > --
> > > Aaron Brazell
> > > Technology Manager, b5media
> > > "A Global New Media Company"
> > >
> > > web:: www.b5media.com, www.technosailor.com
> > > phone:: 410-608-6620
> > > skype:: technosailor
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 15, 2007, at 1:18 PM, Robert Deaton wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 4/15/07, Aaron Brazell <abrazell at b5media.com> wrote:
> > > >> A big, whopping "Hell No" from me. UTW is well respected, yes. It
> > > >> does many things, yes. However, in recent months we've experienced
> > > >> the following problems:
> > > >>
> > > >> 1) Artificial pageview inflation
> > > >> 2) Broken Search
> > > >> 3) Tags eaten
> > > >> 4) Permalink issues
> > > >
> > > > And at the same time, UTW has never had the plethora of coders
> > > looking
> > > > over its source as it would if it were checked into WP proper. I for
> > > > one, would easily spend a bit of time running through the source
> > > > scanning for bugs or poor coding if UTW were to go into the tree. I
> > > > don't think its history can be reason for not adapting it into the
> WP
> > > > core. I mean, by that measure, we'd have to strip out WordPress
> > > itself
> > > > from WordPress. ;-).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > --Robert Deaton
> > > > http://lushlab.com
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