[wp-hackers] Community Views on Now and the Future

Jefte Puente jp at jefte.net
Wed Mar 8 19:19:53 GMT 2006


Jefte Puente wrote:
> How true. End users can never have any valid insights on the package...
how
> could they? They aren't as smart as coders. Coders are always the best
> testers for software - not the clueless end user. Sigh...

I should have tagged as sarcasm. My apologies.

Matt Mullenweg wrote:
>That said, people working on a project for fun in their spare time are
>less likely to tolerate assholes. Life's too short.

Methinks Matt is feeling abused and lashing out. Uncalled for. Back to
lurking for me.

Jefte
http://jefte.net

On 3/8/06, Matt Mullenweg <m at mullenweg.com> wrote:
>
> Jefte Puente wrote:
> > How true. End users can never have any valid insights on the package...
> how
> > could they? They aren't as smart as coders. Coders are always the best
> > testers for software - not the clueless end user. Sigh...
>
> I doubt you would find any contributors who agree with that statement.
>
> > I concur wholeheartedly. If one is not part of the "inner circle" of
> Matt's
> > friends, commentary is unwanted and swiftly rejected. If one cannot code
> PHP
> > or any other language, one is instructed to learn to program - and do it
> > oneself. Not a very welcoming attitude, and far different from the other
> > open source communities I have been a part of.
>
> I would say the Shuttle group is a pretty strong counter-example to
> this. They've had a very strong influence on 2.0 and continue to do so
> even though none of them code.
>
> While some people may have been friends before they got involved with
> WordPress, everyone I know in the team I met through their contributions.
>
> There is no inner circle, there's just people who get things done and
> people who don't. I have little regard for the latter. There are tons of
> ways for non-code people to get things done and contribute tremendously,
> as numerous stars on the Codex and forums have shown.
>
> That said, people working on a project for fun in their spare time are
> less likely to tolerate assholes. Life's too short.
>
> --
> Matt Mullenweg
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