[wp-forums] Twitter ain't .ORG

[Mika A Epstein]

Point is? Do not pull in his tweets to the FORUMS.

If someone starts slagging you on Twitter, and not via those stupid ass 
'sub tweets' where they don't mention anyone by name, you bring it HERE 
and keep us away. You made it look like a personal vendetta against 
Patrick, which I'm sure you didn't mean. I mean, following a guy from 
the forums to Twitter, reading all the tweets, and picking one to throw 
back at him is exactly what people do to US to harass us. You get how 
that wasn't okay?

If he's at WCSF I'm sure I'll talk to him about this. I told him I 
thought you were having a bad/too-brusque day, which everyone has, but 
the tweet was out of line.
> Mark Ratledge <mailto:mark at markratledge.com>
> 21 July, 2013 7:27:49AM
> Sorry, but it's very simple: sometimes we have to moderate users as well as their posts.
>
> The tweet I quoted was complaining about the WP thread, and the twitter link I deleted from his post was pointing toward his twitter account with that tweet, and his post references that tweet.
>
> This is the email I got from Patrick:
>
>
>> Dear Mark,
>>
>> I'm quite dissapointed in your level of proffesionalism at http://wordpress.org/support/topic/extremely-slow-load-time-2.
>>
>> Let's be clear:
>>
>> (1) The Rules do not state anything about twitter.
>> (2) Anything I say on twitter to another user is beyond WP Forum Rules.
>> (3) My services were never advertised on the forum.
>>
>> Also, I'm not sure why you are pulling in conversations from twitter into the forum. In fact, that was in response to the Zpanel Forum.
>>
>> I will make sure this message also gets to someone a bit more senior.
>>
>> Best,
>> -Patrick
>
>
>
>> I will make sure this message also gets to someone a bit more senior.
>
> Right.
>
> I wasn't even sarcastic about him hinting at complaining at WCSF....  :)
>
> (BTW, I'm away from email until tonight)
>
>
> On Jul 21, 2013, at 12:59 AM, Mika A Epstein wrote:
>
>> Today I have to name names, which I hate doing.
>>
>> **Patrick reached out to me on Twitter because a moderator (songdogtech) quoted something he said ON Twitter, in a forum post, which I have now removed.
>>
>> http://wordpress.org/support/topic/extremely-slow-load-time-2?replies=10&view=all
>
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> Mika A Epstein <mailto:ipstenu at ipstenu.org>
> 20 July, 2013 11:59:52PM
> Today I have to name names, which I hate doing.
>
> **Patrick reached out to me on Twitter because a moderator 
> (songdogtech) quoted something he said ON Twitter, in a forum post, 
> which I have now removed.
>
> http://wordpress.org/support/topic/extremely-slow-load-time-2?replies=10&view=all
>
> > @PatrickNommensen said via twitter:
> >
> >Sometimes moderators take all the fun away from helping other folks on 
> open source support forums....
> >
> > Right.
> >
> > Read the link. We ask that you keep support in these forums, and not 
> via email or twitter.
> > And not link to sell your services. Any other mod will tell you that.
>
> Are we okay with people offering to help for hire, or pushing their 
> services? No. But without seeing what the link was that was moderated, 
> the best I can say is this: The first comment was okay, assuming the 
> link was to a services site of some sort, the second was in no way 
> cool. (If it was "I replied to you on Twitter..." then that would 
> actually be okay, but worthy of a 'Hey, we like to keep help here, so 
> we don't end up like this: http://xkcd.com/979/ " )
>
> Everyone, we need to be a little LESS aggro about links like that. The 
> point is to HELP people. That's got to be first, even well above 'Keep 
> the forums clean and well regulated.' If you're JUST stepping in to 
> moderate without any reply to be constructive, you're not helping as 
> much as you think you are.
>
> Mark, I'm thinking you just had a bit of a brusque day and came off 
> sounding harsher than you meant. But leave Twitter out of it. If 
> someone wants to rant out there and insult us, let 'em. Half the time, 
> those rants aren't actually about what you think they were anyway.
>

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