[wp-forums] Ethical practices of consultants

[James Huff]

Just to add, I'm more than happy to send a stern email to offending users, but what am I going to say? "You'd better stop doing that, or I'm going to be really mad!"

There has to be an incentive if we're seriously going to consider this.

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James Huff
http://www.macmanx.com
http://programnotes.wikia.com

On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:15 PM, Chris Kasten <handy.solo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Oh sorry, I should clarify: I didn't say take it off the forums. I think we
> could definitely benefit from having a "no soliciting" policy defined and
> ready to be pointed at for these sorts of situations. If not already in the
> forum guidelines than it should be.
> 
> I'm just not on board with the blacklist portion (for reasons already
> stated).
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 7:00 PM, James Huff <macmanx at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> If we take it off the forums, we might as well not do it, since the problem
>> here is unethical consultants preying on forum users.
>> 
>> 
>> ________
>> James Huff
>> http://www.macmanx.com
>> http://programnotes.wikia.com
>> 
>> On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:46 PM, Chris Kasten wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Mark Ratledge <mark at markratledge.com
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 30, 2010, at 5:39 PM, James Huff wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> The basic format of such a topic (which would be closed and sticky,
>> btw)
>>>> would include a brief bit on what we consider to be "ethical
>> practices"...
>>>> 
>>>> Thoughts:
>>>> 
>>>> I think there should be real clarity in what is considered to be ethical
>>>> and what is considered to be not ethical.
>>>> 
>>>> Should people or consultants *never* email people offering to fix what
>> they
>>>> need fixed? Can people or consultants email help seekers with a simple
>>>> "contact me if you are interested?"
>>>> 
>>>> Sounds like there will be a list of unethical consultants; will there be
>> a
>>>> list of ethical consultants? And who decides that?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Good lord, not us!
>>> 
>>> This all has the potential to be a good idea right up until we start
>> naming
>>> names. Then it augers into the ground faster than a stunt-show jet after
>> the
>>> pilot punched out.
>>> 
>>> I know some of you probably follow the WP Pros mailing list. Have you
>>> noticed how often the "blacklist topic" comes up? 3 times this year so
>> far I
>>> think (I'm not sure, I only follow that list casually). Pretty sure once
>> in
>>> June though.  It generates a lot of noise and then kinda peters out --
>> until
>>> the next time.
>>> 
>>> Ultimately it just gets messy around criteria defining and the very
>>> realistic anticipation of "he said / she said" debates. I'd *really*
>> prefer
>>> not to head down that road on the forums.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Should be people be pointed to jobs.wordpress.net or sites like Elance?
>>>> 
>>>> I can already see this: what's the process when a consultant is
>> blacklisted
>>>> and they subsequently raise hell about it in the forums? Delete the
>> thread?
>>>> Delete the user?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> We don't have the tools to ever win that battle. Too easy for them to
>> just
>>> create a new account and come back (believe me, I've fought and lost
>> those
>>> battles. You "win" when they get tired or bored...)
>>> 
>>> Dunno about you guys, but while I'm pretty quite on the forums these days
>> I
>>> still spend at least an hour a day going through the akismet queue. All
>> this
>>> does is give us more traffic in the queue with the inevitable battles and
>>> bozo-bit flipping.
>>> 
>>> If there's truly merit in the blacklisting let's take it off the forums
>> and
>>> work with the folks in the WP Pros list.
>>> 
>>> My dos centavos,
>>> 
>>> Chris_K (formerly known as HandySolo)
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