[wp-forums] The "Changes" - PT2 - Let's get this together..

[Christopher J. Hradil]

I think the fact that you seem to care enough not only to subscribe to and read this list, but also
contribute to it, speaks volumes. True it may not seem very democratic sometimes (especially in the
situation where one individual seems to have 'veto' power over everything, regardless of the
community's input), eventually the community will either become the decision making entity, or
wither because it's being snuffed out by the dictator, as I'm sure you're aware, that's often how
new projects pop up. 

..c

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Christopher J. Hradil
http://hradil.us 


 

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> wordpress forums
> Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 3:47 PM
> To: wp-forums at lists.automattic.com
> Subject: Re: [wp-forums] The "Changes" - PT2 - Let's get this 
> together..
> 
> With any due respect Chris,
> 
> I am as entitled to my opinion as you, and I do not need to 
> "step back".
> 
> 
> That said --
> 
> For starters, the actual WordPress project is no more like a 
> democracy than any other open source web app with more than 
> one contributer.
> Just ONE case in point: the "hubbub" that surrounded the 777 
> permissions issue with wp-content when it (the issue) first came up.
> There were objections from some well-known and respected 
> developers -- guess what -- Matt over-ruled those objections, 
> and all was settled, and things moved forward. There wasnt 
> much democracy there.
> 
> Secondly, that no-one is paid has little do with anything.
> 
> You mention a community -- that community doesnt exist solely 
> on this list does it? If, in fact, the "WordPress community" 
> were going to have a voice regarding the forums, wouldnt it 
> be more inclusive to open that up on the forums themselves?  
> I am NOT suggesting that be done, merely pointing out what 
> I'm going to call your inconsistency.
> THIS?.. this is a mailing-list community of ppl that happen 
> to post and moderate on the WP foums.  This, and any 
> resulting "vote" would be the real life equivalent of an exit poll.
> 
> 
> Frankly, I dont really care what is done, hence my lack of 
> vote. I dont care if someone somewhere tallys votes, I dont 
> care if theres a voting machine malfunction. And I especially 
> dont care if you happen to disagree with me. I voice my 
> opinion when I'm asked, and dont expect that what I think 
> ought to be done, will be. Like I said, the Internet is NOT a 
> democracy, and you cannot possibly please all people at the same time.
> 
> 
> On 9/16/06, Christopher J. Hradil <chradil at comcast.net> wrote:
> I think you two should take a step back and think about things a bit.
> The fact  that a project  like WP is more like a democracy 
> than not, no one is being paid for their efforts here, and 
> it's the contributions of the community that are responsible 
> for not only the day to day operations of things, but also 
> getting things like the forums and codex straightened out. 
> That being the case (and also the fact that this is the 
> wp-forums mailing list, which is used by WP forums 
> supporters/contributors to discuss issues relating to 
> operations and other forum issues -- this isn't a 'help 
> forum' mailing list), so this is not only the easiest place 
> to take a quick vote, as we've done here, but it's also the 
> most relevant place to do it. In addition, since the folks 
> reading this mailing list are mostly those responsible for 
> both day to day operations of the forums, and those 
> responsible for maintenance, and handling that interface, 
> this is the place for input as to what ought or ought not be 
> done, and when.
> 
> Christopher J. Hradil
> http://hradil.us
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