[wp-forums] Drinking coke zero

[Handy]

Oh yeah.  +1 for Coke zero.  almost as good as Diet Dew.

I have other thoughts on the forum software, but haven't quite sorted 'em
out yet.

On 8/30/06, Handy <handy.solo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think Moshu nailed it.  I think the volunteers are doing great with
> restraint -- and I think the entry level is definitely lowering.  Good for
> market penetration I suppose, but we do field more and more questions that
> just aren't WP related except by a very then tangent.
>
> And frankly, some days I just avoid those.
>
> Where we could improve?
> Volunteers probably need to watch the "herd" approach a bit.  If one
> volunteer goes off on a poster or they are arguing, that thread rarely needs
> all the other volunteers piling on.  Somedays we look like a big ol' game of
> "kill the carrier" from gradeschool recess...big monkey pile.  But even that
> doesn't happen all that often these days.
>
> I vote we lose the "5 minute install" phrase.  I'm too tired of eating
> those words as non-geeks turn to WordPress.  :-p
>
> I'd give my left "man-part" to see the search, when in the forums, default
> to searching the forums.  Maybe I'm wrong, but I just can't help but think
> that would help people find stuff.  Face it, most users don't even see the
> checkboxes to change what's being searched.
>
> And double-face it, the codex is just not all that helpful to the
> newbies.  Lots of stuff in there, no doubt.  Some of it even still valid.
> Some of it woefully out of date.  Put your newbie hat on and go to
> http://codex.wordpress.org/Getting_Started_with_WordPress  Scroll through
> that sucker.  No wonder some folks just don't quite know how to start.
>
> Time to pay/find/incent a Pro to document WP in my humble opinon.  Open
> wiki's just tend to suck for useful documentation after more than 2
> releases.
>
>
>
>
> On 8/30/06, Moshu <moshu at transycan.net> wrote:
> >
> > I don't think it is worse.
> > I believe because of the growing popularity of WP more and more
> > absolute newbies are turning to it - "users" that have never used the
> > computer for more than writing email and documents in Word.
> > For them the "easy" 5-min install "advertisement" is a huge trap!
> > When opening the install instructions they realize that it is full
> > with words ('terminology' as one of them put it in the forum) they can
> > barely understand. So they panic and come to forum with naive -
> > sometimes annoying - questions.
> >
> > I am not talking about special _knowledge_ here... I am talking about
> > the fact that for some new users words like host, domain, ftp, html,
> > css, unzip, upload are absolutely UNKNOWN words and notions.
> >
> > And let me add one of my old obsessions: I was asking for a long time
> > to draw a line where the WP support ends and other issues start (like
> > server setup for wannabe self-hosts, design, basic html etc). Now we
> > arrived to the point that we have even questions for CSS and alike
> > from people coming from the street - so to speak. People who don't
> > even use WP but asking CSS and IE vs. FF and similar questions,
> > _This_ will get worse and worse...
> >
> > m.
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: wp-forums-bounces at lists.automattic.com
> > > [mailto: wp-forums-bounces at lists.automattic.com]On Behalf Of Podz
> > > Sent: 30-Aug-06 6:06 PM
> > > To: wp-forums at lists.automattic.com
> > > Subject: [wp-forums] Drinking coke zero
> > >
> > >
> > > and it's damn good stuff.
> > >
> > > Okay.. the forums.
> > > How bad is it / do you think it is / in comparison to times past?
> > > Is it because we have less regulars possibly because of
> > > summer but an
> > > increasing number of people needing wise words?
> > > Has the atmosphere actually degenerated?
> > > Should mods kill threads faster and harder?
> > > Is expectation exceeding reality?
> > >
> > > 1. Please keep this nice.
> > > 2. If you want something said but you are shy, email me and I'll
> > > cheerfully say it ;)
> > >
> > > This is not point/blame. That's the fastest way to be ignored.
> > > It's how do we help things.
> > >
> > > P.
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