[wp-forums] We need to be friendly.

[spencerp]

I'm assuming the thread that was removed was the one ladydelaluna and I were going off topic in. =(  It was all really a misunderstanding and I wasn't mad, I dunno about her though.. =/  

I didn't even read the latest replies, because I had logged offline after my last one..so, I dunno what was going on after that sigh.. Either way, I had "tried" to help the O.P. . =)  But I also did mention about it starting to go off topic, but, sorry about that one.. =( 

As for the being friendly topic, I have been trying to be friendly, compared to before, posting like a mad loon, drunk as hell and angry... =(   And the "troll" crap does need to stop though, I know one person [cough] female that called me one, but yet the "tone" of others can be right there on the same "level" at times.. 

I also know I messed up big time with "people's" respect and so forth, and I'm sorry about all that in the beginning. I'm trying my hardest to be a better "user/ helper". =)  As for the "search" topic, I don't usually say tell peoples to go search, per se, I often go and try and find useful topics in my Bookmarks, google or what not.. 

I agree with Kaf on what he said about that. =)  It's easy to just say, "go search!" But, not everyone knows what to search for, or what/which topics will be more useful to them, because they don't "live" there at the forums lol!! 

Anyway, I already started Chapter 1 of my book with this lengthy reply lol. But again, I'm sorry about that thread getting too personal.. =( 

spencer





>I just deleted a thread which had moved from the issue posted to being 
> personal. The problem was resolved and the thread served no purpose 
> hence it's removal. But what happened in the thread is indicative of 
> recent happenings.
> 
> I have had more email in the past month about the forums than in the 
> last year and every one had the same concern - "the forums aren't friendly".
> They need to be.
> I don't care if you've seen the same post 500 times, I don't care if you 
> think they haven't searched - answer them by pointing at a correct 
> answer or don't bother answering them. You don't _have_ to answer, so if 
> you do - for any question - please be civil at the very least.
> 
> If the response to every issue that had been posted once before had been 
> "SEARCH" then we'd not be much would we? Codex.. why bother - we can search.
> 
> Tags can be added, search can be improved - we should be looking to give 
> at least one model answer which we can then reference, which can be 
> added to the search form, which can be read by those who never post but 
> just read (because you made search better), which can be used by someone 
> to feel confident enough to start answering posts as well.
> 
> Bad news travels fastest and lingers longest - so one shouting match in 
> the forums can negate the effect of many many more good answers and 
> experiences. Calling people names ("Troll") also does nothing at all but 
> to attack and lower the tone. I have never yet seen anyone on usenet 
> disappear when called that so I don't see why it will happen here. All 
> this drags the forum down and starts to lower the bar of what we should 
> expect.
> 
> The forums are not our playground. We will all move on at some point and 
> we should leave an environment into which we would be happy to post. WP 
> is free and so is our help but it doesn't mean that we should be 
> anything less than helpful and decent.
> 
> The 'modlook' tag is something to be used against spammers and those 
> wishing to be destructive. It is also a tool others can use to make sure 
> than anyone's posts can be seen - that includes us. There is a 
> difference between using tools like editing/deleting/tagging to manage 
> the forums more effectively and abuse.
> 
> I'm not perfect - I know that - but please - if you cannot be polite, 
> please do not post.
> 
> P.
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