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you need.  I almost always install Tiny MCE advanced in my WP3.0.1
stand-alone sites and have never had any issues.  The table creation and
formatting functionality that it provides is quite solid and complete. =20

All the best.

Loren

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[mailto:wp-edu-bounces at lists.automattic.com] On Behalf Of Whisler, Dave
Sent: October 8, 2010 11:42 AM
To: wp-edu at lists.automattic.com
Subject: [wp-edu] Creation of Tables in WP via WP-Table-Reloaded

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Loren,

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Thanks for the suggestion to try WP-Table-Reloaded, but I had seen that
one previously and opted not to try it.  =20

I saw that this plugin is pretty popular and so thought it  might work
for me.   However...... not didn't seem to be optimal for what I had in
mind (though I could be wrong).

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Here's my reasoning:   It seems to suggest that it stores each "table"
that you create ( I guess for re-use purposes) and then you reference
that table in your post/page using a special shortcode.  =20

Am I correct in this?    If so, that might work for some situations, but
I'm thinking that most times you'd want the actual content in the table
to be stored in the actual post/page and not simply hitting a reference
to where it's stored somewhere else.   What if someone removes the
actual table data in the "plugin" backend - or deinstalled the plugin
(or it stops working due to a upgrade or the plugin dev. Stops...)

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What I'm pursuing is simply a way to generate the html needed for
formatting in the front-end editor - thus, even if the editor plugin I
use to do this function "goes away", breaks, or I deinstall it, the
content in the page/post is not dependent on it - since it's just
standard HTML.    =20

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Thanks,

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Dave

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David K. Whisler | Oracle & MySQL DBA/Developer & Joomla Administrator

UNC Charlotte | The William States Lee College of Engineering

9201 University City Blvd. | Charlotte, NC 28223

Phone: 704-687-3964 | Fax: 704-687-2352

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the =
feedback.&nbsp;&nbsp; Yes,
it will probably do the trick.&nbsp;&nbsp; Good to know that some =
multi-site WP 3.0 sites
are using it.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; However, anyone do a head-to-head =
comparison of it against
others (WP Super Edit or others)?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>David K. Whisler <b>| </b>Oracle &amp; MySQL =
DBA/Developer &amp;
Joomla Administrator<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>UNC Charlotte <b>| </b>The William States Lee College of
Engineering<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><span =
style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>9201 University City =
Blvd. <b>|
</b>Charlotte, NC 28223<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><span =
style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;
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Fax: 704-687-2352</span><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
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</b><span
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wp-edu-bounces at lists.automattic.com
[mailto:wp-edu-bounces at lists.automattic.com] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>loren at nbseminary.com<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 08, 2010 3:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> wp-edu at lists.automattic.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [wp-edu] Creation of Tables in WP via =
WP-Table-Reloaded<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Dave,&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>From your description =
below I
think Tiny MCE Advanced would fulfill what you need. &nbsp;I almost =
always
install Tiny MCE advanced in my WP3.0.1 stand-alone sites and have never =
had
any issues.&nbsp; The table creation and formatting functionality that =
it
provides is quite solid and complete.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>All the =
best.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Loren<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
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</b><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
wp-edu-bounces at lists.automattic.com
[mailto:wp-edu-bounces at lists.automattic.com] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Whisler, Dave<br>
<b>Sent:</b> October 8, 2010 11:42 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> wp-edu at lists.automattic.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [wp-edu] Creation of Tables in WP via =
WP-Table-Reloaded<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Loren,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the =
suggestion to try
WP-Table-Reloaded, but I had seen that one previously and opted not to =
try
it.&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I saw that this =
plugin is pretty
popular and so thought it &nbsp;might work for me.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
However&#8230;&#8230; not
didn&#8217;t seem to be optimal for what I had in mind (though I could =
be wrong).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Here&#8217;s my =
reasoning:&nbsp;&nbsp;
It seems to suggest that it stores each &#8220;table&#8221; that you =
create ( I guess for
re-use purposes) and then you reference that table in your post/page =
using a
special shortcode.&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Am I correct in
this?&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If so, that might work for some situations, but =
I&#8217;m
thinking that most times you&#8217;d want the actual content in the =
table to be
stored in the actual post/page and not simply hitting a reference to =
where it&#8217;s
stored somewhere else.&nbsp;&nbsp; What if someone removes the actual =
table
data in the &#8220;plugin&#8221; backend &#8211; or deinstalled the =
plugin (or it stops working
due to a upgrade or the plugin dev. Stops&#8230;)<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>What I&#8217;m =
pursuing is simply a
way to generate the html needed for formatting in the front-end editor =
&#8211; thus,
even if the editor plugin I use to do this function &#8220;goes =
away&#8221;, breaks, or I
deinstall it, the content in the page/post is not dependent on it =
&#8211; since it&#8217;s
just standard HTML.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Dave<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>David
K. Whisler <b>| </b>Oracle &amp; MySQL DBA/Developer &amp; Joomla =
Administrator<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>UNC
Charlotte <b>| </b>The William States Lee College of =
Engineering<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><span =
style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>9201 University City Blvd. <b>| =
</b>Charlotte,
NC 28223<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><span =
style=3D'font-size:8.0pt;
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Phone: 704-687-3964 <b>|</b> Fax:
704-687-2352</span><span =
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font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:blue'>dkwhisle at uncc.edu</span></u>=
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