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    Like the layout your suggesting Lorelle.<br>
    <br>
    It's clear, clean and easy to understand. Very understandable
    headings. <br>
    <br>
    I think one of the more difficult parts will be how many links there
    will be under each heading, and where they will direct to. <br>
    <br>
    So far, so good though. <br>
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    Gooitzen<br>
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    On 08/25/2011 01:45 PM, Andrea Rennick wrote:
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cite="mid:CAJzjkbdPWwU3qrdTeKTwcrtngiLVHoa1O3m-wMR+x0Zsoo+8gw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">I like the original layout too.
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      <div>A.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 8:10 AM, Mika A
          Epstein <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ipstenu@ipstenu.org">ipstenu@ipstenu.org</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div>I like that layout. :D</div>
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                    On Aug 24, 2011, at 11:24 PM, Lorelle on WordPress
                    &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:lorelleonwordpress@gmail.com"
                      target="_blank">lorelleonwordpress@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<br>
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                    <div>I am agreeing with the idea of reverting it
                      back and having a solid discussion on what needs
                      to be there. <br>
                      <br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://codex.wordpress.org/User:Lorelle/Front_Page_Project"
                        target="_blank">http://codex.wordpress.org/User:Lorelle/Front_Page_Project</a><br>
                      <br>
                      I've started a user page for us to work on this
                      together. For many years, I've wanted a simple,
                      clean "What do you want to do with WordPress?"
                      feel, much like the Windows ad campaign years ago.
                      We need to funnel people to the areas of the Codex
                      where they can find the help they need, so let's
                      make it really easy. <br>
                      <br>
                      I've been working on the answer to that question
                      over the years and it boils down to those few
                      answers. Take a look and see what you think. Do
                      you feel the same way? Then let's start looking at
                      how we can group the subcontent together to keep
                      this clean and simple. <br>
                      <br>
                      Thanks!  <br>
                      <br>
                      Lorelle<br>
                      <br>
                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at
                        4:52 PM, Mika A Epstein <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:ipstenu@ipstenu.org"
                            target="_blank">ipstenu@ipstenu.org</a>&gt;</span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                          Now that I'm not on my cell phone<br>
                          <br>
                          If anything, the layout is … terrible.  It's
                          too much information, not laid out in any
                          helpful way.  As with WikiPedia, most users
                          start in the middle of the Codex.  A search
                          for 'WordPress how do I make a theme' comes up
                          with <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Development"
                            target="_blank">http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Development</a>
                          first, which is as it should be ;)  A Wiki's
                          not a book (says my mentor over and over
                          again).<br>
                          <br>
                          We should revert to what we had and THEN go
                          forward and rebuild it. Except that I went
                          back to the Before shot and it was this: <a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://codex.wordpress.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;oldid=108003"
                            target="_blank">http://codex.wordpress.org/index.php?title=Main_Page&amp;oldid=108003</a><br>
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                          That too is way too much information and not
                          enough organization.  If it's more than a
                          couple scrolls, no one's going to read it.
                           I'd break it out so 'Getting Started' is the
                          brunt of the page.  We have a lot of links
                          going to subsections of pages, which either
                          means each link should be a page of it's own,
                          or we trust they're going to read.  The amount
                          of duplicated information is adding to the
                          length, and it's almost overwhelming for me,
                          and I know what I'm doing most of the time ;)
                          (And I lie well the rest of the time!)<br>
                          <br>
                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://codex.wordpress.org/User:Ipstenu/Main_Page"
                            target="_blank">http://codex.wordpress.org/User:Ipstenu/Main_Page</a><br>
                          <br>
                          After I yanked out all the dupe info, there
                          was a lot less going on.  I left off the
                          "Developer" stuff, as that really should be
                          it's own page. Actually, most of that stuff
                          should go on the FAQ pages, where a cursory
                          skim shows most of the info, with links,
                          actually is already.<br>
                          <br>
                          ----<br>
                          <font color="#888888">Mika A Epstein (aka
                            Ipstenu)<br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://ipstenu.org" target="_blank">http://ipstenu.org</a><br>
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                              On 24 Aug 2011, at 4:37:48PM, Andrea
                              Rennick wrote:<br>
                              <br>
                              &gt; I just tried to access mailing list
                              archives and can't get to <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://lists.automattic.com/"
                                target="_blank">http://lists.automattic.com/</a>
                              in Chrome, tho it could be me as Firefox
                              was fine.<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; Anyway - I had been thinking about a
                              multisite section on the front page as
                              well. Just to toss that out there.<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; A.<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 6:35 PM,
                              Lorelle on WordPress &lt;<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:lorelleonwordpress@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank">lorelleonwordpress@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                              wrote:<br>
                              &gt; Thanks, Otto. Which brings up the
                              decision to leave it as it is and fix it
                              or put it back to what it was.<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; Has anyone talked to Spencer who made
                              the edits? Is he on the mailing list?
                              (Wishing for our own P2 still. :D )<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; Lorelle<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Otto
                              &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:otto@ottodestruct.com"
                                target="_blank">otto@ottodestruct.com</a>&gt;
                              wrote:<br>
                              &gt; On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 4:26 PM,
                              Lorelle on WordPress<br>
                              &gt; &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:lorelleonwordpress@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank">lorelleonwordpress@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                              wrote:<br>
                              &gt; &gt; I'm also concerned as I don't
                              recognize the person who edited all these<br>
                              &gt; &gt; changes. The front page of the
                              Codex should have been locked down for<br>
                              &gt; &gt; editing only by those with the
                              highest levels of administration as it has
                              a<br>
                              &gt; &gt; long history of spam. It was
                              locked down.<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; Protections may have been removed a
                              while back when the codex went<br>
                              &gt; wacky. I reprotected it. If it needs
                              to be reverted or unprotected let<br>
                              &gt; me know.<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; -Otto<br>
                              &gt;
                              _______________________________________________<br>
                              &gt; wp-docs mailing list<br>
                              &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:wp-docs@lists.automattic.com"
                                target="_blank">wp-docs@lists.automattic.com</a><br>
                              &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-docs"
                                target="_blank">http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-docs</a><br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt;
                              _______________________________________________<br>
                              &gt; wp-docs mailing list<br>
                              &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:wp-docs@lists.automattic.com"
                                target="_blank">wp-docs@lists.automattic.com</a><br>
                              &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-docs"
                                target="_blank">http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-docs</a><br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt; --<br>
                              &gt; --<br>
                              &gt; Andrea Rennick, <a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://wpebooks.com"
                                target="_blank">http://wpebooks.com</a>
                              and <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://ronandandrea.com"
                                target="_blank">http://ronandandrea.com</a><br>
                              &gt; Co-author of WordPress All-In-One For
                              Dummies <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://rml.me/aio" target="_blank">http://rml.me/aio</a><br>
                              &gt;<br>
                              &gt;
                              _______________________________________________<br>
                              &gt; wp-docs mailing list<br>
                              &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:wp-docs@lists.automattic.com"
                                target="_blank">wp-docs@lists.automattic.com</a><br>
                              &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-docs"
                                target="_blank">http://lists.automattic.com/mailman/listinfo/wp-docs</a><br>
                              <br>
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        -- <br>
        Andrea Rennick, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://wpebooks.com" target="_blank">http://wpebooks.com</a> and <a
          moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://ronandandrea.com"
          target="_blank">http://ronandandrea.com</a> 
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          Co-author of WordPress All-In-One For Dummies <a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://rml.me/aio"
            target="_blank">http://rml.me/aio</a></div>
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