[wp-docs] Codex menus

[Chris Jean]

In order to get everyone on the same page, Ben is using a different skin 
(Classic rather than Codex) on his Codex view. It's the same site, 
different skin. So, he sees a different site layout than most of the 
rest of us are looking at.

This was quickly noticed and handled by mrmist, and that should have 
been the end of the confusion.


Ben,

Jacob may have been quick to call you a troll, but you have been very 
vocal, extremely rude, and quick to judgment yourself when it was you 
who made the mistaken assumption (that you too would see the changes 
even though you are using a non-default skin). Rather than trying to 
figure out why seemingly everyone else couldn't understand what you were 
talking about, you proceeded to believe that everyone was an idiot, that 
open source projects are a tragedy, and that you are being crapped on. A 
wisdom I learned a while back applies here: If it seems like everyone 
around me is horribly wrong, it's more likely that I've misunderstood 
something and that I'm actually the one that is wrong. This wisdom is 
extremely valuable in the technical field.

Just so you know what we are seeing, this is what I see while using the 
default skin: http://tinyurl.com/7ev65h

As you can see, the changes that everyone have been talking about are on 
this skin and not on your's. If you wish to continue discussing changes 
to the Codex layout, I recommend that you change your skin to default.


Everyone,

Frankly, I think that this could have been handled better by everyone. 
Most of the response I've seen in this thread have been laced with 
assumptions and incomplete thoughts. Even if you know 100% that people 
know exactly what you are talking about, it always helps to provide a 
link to the page that is being discussed. It also helps to note whether 
or not your are logged in and if you see any differences when you are 
logged in or not logged in. Using full, detailed sentences for both 
questions and responses helps cut off spiraling circles of confusion 
like this.

Screenshots are a great tool. I think if Ben had been provided with a 
screenshot of what we see earlier that this mess could have been much 
smaller. So maybe another good practice is to always send a link to a 
screenshot if the discussion is about site layout/design issues.

I'm not sure that this is relevant to this thread, but in general, the 
following is also good practice to prevent confusion: Keep in mind that 
while English is the language used on this list, not everyone is from 
the same region/country/part of the world that you are. English is very 
diverse, as such, using abundant detail to describe things can help 
people that have a different usage of English or use English as a 
secondary language.

Chris Jean
http://gaarai.com/
http://wp-roadmap.com/



Bernard D. Tremblay wrote:
> Lorelle VanFossen wrote:
>   
>> Bernard was not trolling. He's a valuable member of our documentation
>> team. Sorry you haven't had a chance to get to know his humor before
>> slamming. He's doing great work and exploring thoroughly WordPressMU
>> and development documentation, which is desperately needed here.
>>     
>
> Thank you. I had no idea.
> (In fact and actually I've done very little ... before I move things I get
> things clear. And when getting even the slightest thing clear causes shit-storm
> / trash-talk, then I want my money back. And a raise. There. That's my idea of a
> joke. But nothing I wrote previously was intended to be humourous.)
>
> I don't need to be told to chill, to take my meds, to stop being an asshole, to
> stop trolling, etc etc etc.
>
> And I don't accept smileys and vague self-serving half-apologies ... that's just
> the ticket price for passive-aggression ... personality politics loyalty checks
> ... it compels people to eat shit with a grin.
> I've been at it decades (12th hour at the keyboard today; time for Daily Show),
> I smoke, I drink, and I'm healthy as a horse / fit as a fiddle. Cuz I don't eat
> shit >period<.
>
> have lots and lots of fun
>
> ben
>
>
>   
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