[buddypress-dev] info portability- theme options - friend's feeds - urls

Steve Bryan djsteve007 at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 7 04:23:50 GMT 2008


Recent friend activity could show a few items on the dashboard, with a second dashboard page showing more recent items with more friends. It would be nice to choose which items to keep an eye on with different friends - some you may want to know about new pics, some you may want to ignore bulletins and blog posts. I sure wish I could ignore one of my friends bulletin feeds on myspace.

Has there been any testing / consideration about urls? I know some plugins have had issues with sublog.wpmuinstall.com as opposed to wpmuinstall.com/sublog. I think a lot of users out there are use to  http://myspace.com/mypage - and I have seen some issues out there with doing it that way. I'd like to launch one that way. my other wpmu's are the other way for now.

I am VERY glad that the thinking has evolved to include multiple theme options - will there be a wiki or something for documenting the theme tags? I am very interested in this area - will help with documentation to whatever degree I can be helpful, and will be doing what I can to develop theme options from what i have on the drawing board.

Of course it should be an option for admins if they want to have multiple themes available to end users or not. We should also have the ability to offer a paid feature for premium members to have more themes or different themes.

Would it make sense to have two checkboxes next tot he user(author) fields that users could select for exporting information? Like a checkbox to export to friends or export off site. This way you could create an rss feed(?) of your own user details that could be sucked in by another wordpress install or open id kind of thing? If so I could check off my username, nickname, birthday and bio information as exportable off site, but keep my AIM id on site only, or friends only. We could also have a check box to include booklists or bookmarks (or sub bookmarks (which could include urls of friends for friends lists) - if this created a custom rss url it could be shared that way... 

I think it would be cool to have the option for a permanent url with this custom selected info, or have the url expire after a selected amount of time (24 hours) - so it could be used for importing elsewhere temporarily.

wpmuinstall.com/yourpage/feed=publicuserinfoexport.rss

Of course I imagine that different networks will have different info, and many will want to have custom fields - so the universal formatting will be an issue. I see some sites have fields for birthday, and some have astrological signs and marriage status etc. Some people may want to include their work info, and some sites will have custom fields for god knows what else
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Some random thoughts - haven't finished my first cup of coffee yet - hope it makes sense and others can add to this process to create the functional yet flexible beast BP is becoming.

Steve
Nashville, TN
http://weblog.globaladvancedmedia.com



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Today's Topics:

   1. Portable friends -> activity feed? (Wessel van Rensburg)
   2. Re: buddypress-dev Digest, Vol 1, Issue 19
      (Henrik Hammer Berthelsen)
   3. Re: Data Portability and Microformats (Matt Mullenweg)
   4. Re: Data Portability and Microformats (Andrea)
   5. Re: Portable friends (Andrea)
   6. Re: Portable friends (Chris Taylor - stillbreathing.co.uk)
   7. Re: Portable friends -> activity feed?
      (Chris Taylor - stillbreathing.co.uk)


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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 15:48:04 -0400
From: "Wessel van Rensburg" 
Subject: [buddypress-dev] Portable friends -> activity feed?
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Chris said:

>So my thoughts are that a users friends list *shouldn't* go to their
>friends to see if data has changed. Instead when someone, for example,
>updates their status that new text should be sent to anyone in their
>friends list. Here's an example.

Chris

Is what your talking about not the personalized activity feed we referred to
earlier? Personalized in that its based on what your friends are doing on
BuddyPress?

Your list I would see as follows, a feed that

- Includes the current status of each friend when it changes
- Includes a link to the latest post from each friend when a post is made
- Show what topics your friends have been posting on (do you mean tags or
categories?)
- Includes links to recently-added photos from friends when these photos are
added to a gallery
- Compare favourites etc. with friends (not sure how this would work)
- Include links to bookmarks of friends when these are added.
- Include links to a comment of a friend when they do comment.

Something like that. If its not like a news feed and it just shows the
latest post/ picture by friends regardless of how long ago it was made, it
looses some of its magic don't you think?
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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:54:32 +0200
From: "Henrik Hammer Berthelsen" 
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>  Josh from Texas here.  I've been following the mailing list for the past
>  few days, and I just noticed on the project status wiki that group
>  forums based on bbpress is a planned feature.  So how will this forum
>  functionality work? As in, will groups be able to create new forums from
>  their admin pages? Will the bbpress tables be part of the same database?
>  Will the bbpress code be required as part of the buddypress core?
>  Etc....
>  Sorry so many questions, I'm just intrigued by the idea of kinda
>  blending bbpress and buddypress together and having forums be creatable
>  by the users.
>  Awesome stuff so far.

Exactly the feature from Drupal OrganicGroups (OG) I'd falled in love
with. Could be awesome if BuddyPress got this functionality :-)


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Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 11:34:13 -0700
From: Matt Mullenweg 
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Andy Peatling wrote:
> The presentation tab will return, but we need to have more than one 
> possible theme before this can happen. If a user switches to a theme 
> that is not set up for BuddyPress then things are going to break.

There's no reason this couldn't be its own 5-line plugin that could be 
included with BuddyPress and optionally enabled if a blog admin wants.

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Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 17:52:36 -0300
From: Andrea 
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Could it be as simple as an if_function_exists?

Granted this is still early stage, but I've noticed with BP running, if 
another theme is selected there's just a blog, no BP features 
(naturally, since they aren't in the theme).

Andrea

Matt Mullenweg wrote:
> Andy Peatling wrote:
>> The presentation tab will return, but we need to have more than one 
>> possible theme before this can happen. If a user switches to a theme 
>> that is not set up for BuddyPress then things are going to break.
>
> There's no reason this couldn't be its own 5-line plugin that could be 
> included with BuddyPress and optionally enabled if a blog admin wants.
>

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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 22:21:33 +0100
From: "Chris Taylor - stillbreathing.co.uk"
 
Subject: Re: [buddypress-dev] Portable friends
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On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Andrea wrote:
>  That help? :)

Yep, sounds exactly like what we had in mind.

Chris


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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 21:29:37 +0100
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On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Wessel van Rensburg wrote:
> Is what your talking about not the personalized activity feed we referred to
> earlier? Personalized in that its based on what your friends are doing on
> BuddyPress?

Sort of, however the friends system *could* have some more advanced
features. What those are I'm not sure, but they could include
comparing data between user and friend.

I've clarified the list below:

>  - Includes the current status of each friend when it changes
Absolutely, I would say this is the most important thing

>  - Includes a link to the latest post from each friend when a post is made
Yep, very important

>  - Show what topics your friends have been posting on (do you mean tags or
> categories?)
Sorry, I should have made this clear. I meant what forum topics (for
example in bbPress) they were writing in

>  - Includes links to recently-added photos from friends when these photos
> are added to a gallery
Yes, definitely. Being able to show a thumbnail would be great as well.

>  - Compare favourites etc. with friends (not sure how this would work)
This would be a VERY clever system to do this. I think for the initial
version of BuddyPress this just isn't going to happen.

> - Include links to bookmarks of friends when these are added.
Yes, great idea. That is a sort of del.icio.us type feature, I suppose.

> - Include links to a comment of a friend when they do comment.
If you mean when a friend comments on someone else's blog then that's
very, very tricky. There might be a way to do it but my mind currently
can't figure it out.

> Something like that. If its not like a news feed and it just shows the
> latest post/ picture by friends regardless of how long ago it was made, it
> looses some of its magic don't you think?

Yes, I agree. Maybe showing updates from the last few days would be
enough. Perhaps the user could even set how far back they want to see
by default, to handle the different number of times different users
might log in per week. Of course archives would be good as well, so
people can catch up after being offline for a while, for example.

Thanks for these good ideas. Wessel, are you a developer? Do you have
some time to help with BuddyPress?

Chris


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